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Good! Apple may ask for a bit too much with the 30 percent but still doesn’t give Epic the right to try and do things on their own. Judging on their little trai
by DevBih 6y ago
Good! Apple may ask for a bit too much with the 30 percent but still doesn’t give Epic the right to try and do things on their own. Judging on their little trailer they released shortly after getting removed, they new this was going to happen. A company that makes so much money should be able to compromise.
- misnome 6y agoIt completely gives them the right to do it on their own. They are free to take their business elsewhere, or start their own mobile platform.
- CarbyAu 6y agoAs things currently stand this is unarguably true. The next question is though, given the incentives in place are entirely due to Apple, is that anti-competitive? I think it is. It is also ruthless smart business to make money. Given societies rules about "make money" for corporations I can't blame them. But I am allowed to wish it were otherwise.
- ryanbrunner 6y agoThe problem is that Apple has consistently demonstrated that "compromise" means "accept Apple's terms without any wiggle room for negotiation".
- sushid 6y ago> A company that makes so much money should be able to compromise. It's hilarious to see people rooting for Apple as if they're the little guys. The company that makes so much money here is Apple, not Epic. They should be willing to compromise. They gouge app developers and in turn its end users by charging a 30% ransom.
- enos_feedler 6y agoHow many app developers feel they are getting gouged? I’m an iOS developer and don’t feel that way? Is it when you get big and greedy?
- zepto 6y agoExactly, this entire thing is about big intermediaries getting a piece of the pie through the legal system. Smaller developers will be the casualties of a multi-store situation because they will be forced to support the them all. There will therefore be no competitive pressure on benefits for developers. This is all about more middlemen making money.
- sushid 6y agoHow do you rationalize this? There's no situation where having a legitimate competitor to the App Store makes the situation somehow worse for smaller developers. At worst, they continue their business as usual. At best the competitive pressure allows their business to stay the same but with higher margins. Most likely they would eke out a bit more money than the status quo by using another App Store competitor alongside the App Store if they choose to do so.
- sushid 6y agoThe irony of calling an app developer "big and greedy" in face of Apple is not lost on me here. 30% in pure profit would means a lot to regular companies/folks as well, not just the "big and greedy" ones. Just because you don't feel the pain doesn't mean other ones do. And ultimately, some of this cost is burdened by the end user purchasing the app which is obviously harmful to everyday users such as myself.
- heavyset_go 6y agoI'm not aware of another industry that puts up with 30% fees on all the products that they sell. GrubHub et al are notorious in the restaurant industry for their 30% cuts on orders, and owners are doing everything they can to eliminate those companies from the picture. Artists, on the other hand, only have to deal with a 10% to 15% cut when they sell their music digitally or physically through Bandcamp. I'm a small and modest developer, and I feel like 30% and $99/year is too much. Mind you, Apple is a trillion dollar company that will take a 30% cut whether you're a worker in the 3rd world or a kid in college. I'm not sure I follow your "big and greedy" rhetoric at all here.