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I am confused, how is pro-diversity immediately categorized as anti-white? Are you just assuming every pro-diversity initiative is anti-white?

spanhandler 6y ago
I don’t want to jump into this particular garbage fire, but the answer to your second question (and implicitly your first) is in the post you’re responding to.
tuesdayrain 6y ago
I always believed in treating people equally despite their race. So when someone makes a statement regarding black people that would be perceived as racist if you said the exact same thing about white people, I consider that anti-white racism. Ex. Microsoft saying they plan to "double the number of White people managers, senior individual contributors, and senior leaders in the United States by 2025."
- arbitrary_name 6y ago
  >I always believed in treating people equally despite their race That's cute. Many people don't. The system in which we live certainly does not treat minorities very well. Hence we have affirmative action and other efforts to provide temporary redress until there is genuine equality. Is that a problem for you? That people who have experienced systematic racism might get an extra helping hand to try and break the cycle of racism, poverty and exclusion? Shame on you.
  - SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
    I don't see how counteracting a history of racist discrimination with new, antiracist discrimination is ever going to eliminate discrimination. A system where people get jobs based on their race and gender isn't genuinely equal, even if every race and gender is allocated a proportionate share.
  - tuesdayrain 6y ago
    I see poverty as an orthogonal issue here, since there are plenty of African Americans from affluent families. If Microsoft's goal was helping people of any race break the cycle of poverty, I would consider that perfectly fair. Fighting historical racism with new-age racism in the opposite direction isn't the way to go.

spanhandler 6y ago

I don’t want to jump into this particular garbage fire, but the answer to your second question (and implicitly your first) is in the post you’re responding to.

tuesdayrain 6y ago

I always believed in treating people equally despite their race. So when someone makes a statement regarding black people that would be perceived as racist if you said the exact same thing about white people, I consider that anti-white racism. Ex. Microsoft saying they plan to "double the number of White people managers, senior individual contributors, and senior leaders in the United States by 2025."

arbitrary_name 6y ago
>I always believed in treating people equally despite their race That's cute. Many people don't. The system in which we live certainly does not treat minorities very well. Hence we have affirmative action and other efforts to provide temporary redress until there is genuine equality. Is that a problem for you? That people who have experienced systematic racism might get an extra helping hand to try and break the cycle of racism, poverty and exclusion? Shame on you.
- SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
  I don't see how counteracting a history of racist discrimination with new, antiracist discrimination is ever going to eliminate discrimination. A system where people get jobs based on their race and gender isn't genuinely equal, even if every race and gender is allocated a proportionate share.
- tuesdayrain 6y ago
  I see poverty as an orthogonal issue here, since there are plenty of African Americans from affluent families. If Microsoft's goal was helping people of any race break the cycle of poverty, I would consider that perfectly fair. Fighting historical racism with new-age racism in the opposite direction isn't the way to go.