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This sentiment expresses something I'm starting to see a lot in our discourse. I call it "third-party outrage", where you (bystander) get mad because you think

This sentiment expresses something I'm starting to see a lot in our discourse. I call it "third-party outrage", where you (bystander) get mad because you think some "aggressor" did something bad to some hypothetical "victim". What cracks me up is that oftentimes, the victims don't even care or don't get nearly as mad as the bystandars. Same story with tech workers getting mad about how Amazon pays their employees. Is there any real harm being done here? So I gotta wonder, why are the bystanders more mad than the alleged "victims" themselves? Do you realize how screwed up this is?

chii 6y ago
Would you still make the same statements if the topic was about whether the word 'blacklist' should be replaced?
- mirko22 6y ago
  Yes :) but that ship has sailed.
luckylion 6y ago
I don't think it's outrage, it's more so pointing out that "if you're poor and can't afford to renew the lease, just take a million or two out of your savings account and boom, you're wealthy" isn't good advice because it requires having a savings account with at least a few million in it. And for anyone in that situation: how many of them are too poor to pay rent?
bmcn2020 6y ago
> So I gotta wonder, why are the bystanders more mad than the alleged "victims" themselves? Do you realize how screwed up this is? Can you clarify, cause I'm not sure what issue you're addressing? Am I a "bystander" in this, or an "alleged victim"? As a "bystander," you think, therefore, that I am not poor/in poverty? What gave you that idea?
- mirko22 6y ago
  Being single mom has often nothing to do with privilege but rather choices in life, at least if you are divorced... I think that was the point.
  - bmcn2020 6y ago
    I disagree. The main point, at last my initial point, was that there are people in situations in life -- however they got to those situations -- that absolutely cannot afford that kind of "sloth" lifestyle. And, sociologically speaking, sometimes single motherhood is connected to privilege, or a lack thereof.
6510 6y ago
It only makes sense to do something if you expect results. The victim doesn't get mad because there is no point to it. (or they just feel that way) They just have to accept whatever is coming at them. (or they just feel that way) Are there labor laws if you cant afford legal action?

chii 6y ago

Would you still make the same statements if the topic was about whether the word 'blacklist' should be replaced?

mirko22 6y ago
Yes :) but that ship has sailed.

luckylion 6y ago

I don't think it's outrage, it's more so pointing out that "if you're poor and can't afford to renew the lease, just take a million or two out of your savings account and boom, you're wealthy" isn't good advice because it requires having a savings account with at least a few million in it. And for anyone in that situation: how many of them are too poor to pay rent?

bmcn2020 6y ago

> So I gotta wonder, why are the bystanders more mad than the alleged "victims" themselves? Do you realize how screwed up this is? Can you clarify, cause I'm not sure what issue you're addressing? Am I a "bystander" in this, or an "alleged victim"? As a "bystander," you think, therefore, that I am not poor/in poverty? What gave you that idea?

mirko22 6y ago
Being single mom has often nothing to do with privilege but rather choices in life, at least if you are divorced... I think that was the point.
- bmcn2020 6y ago
  I disagree. The main point, at last my initial point, was that there are people in situations in life -- however they got to those situations -- that absolutely cannot afford that kind of "sloth" lifestyle. And, sociologically speaking, sometimes single motherhood is connected to privilege, or a lack thereof.

6510 6y ago

It only makes sense to do something if you expect results. The victim doesn't get mad because there is no point to it. (or they just feel that way) They just have to accept whatever is coming at them. (or they just feel that way) Are there labor laws if you cant afford legal action?