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It better stay around, w3schools finally started to fall off in Google results. I feel dirty anytime I accidentally click on it.
by dawnerd 6y ago
It better stay around, w3schools finally started to fall off in Google results. I feel dirty anytime I accidentally click on it.
- whalesalad 6y agoI wish I could block domains from my google results.
- riggsdk 6y agoHow I would like to avoid 5 pages of Pinterest results when doing an image search by default.
- ffpip 6y agohttps://pastebin.com/5diH8Weh https://pastebin.com/5diH8Weh Add to uBlock Origin
- deleted 6y ago[deleted]
- thephyber 6y agoDo you mean like this? > javascript date object Top results contain MDN and W3Schools.com > javascript date object -site:w3schools.com Top results contain no w3schools.com
- thrtythreeforty 6y agoYes, but with the list persisted across all searches. No Pinterest, no w3schools, no Facebook in any of my search results, ever.
- t0astbread 6y agoPerhaps a web extension that redirects Google requests to include the filter clause could work? See https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/WebExtensions/API/webRequest https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Add-ons/Web...
- efreak 6y agoPersonally, this list would be far too big for me. Search query length is limited, and I run up against the limit semi regularly while trying to exclude domaine and irrelevant topics.
- t0astbread 6y agoI see. Maybe a userscript to filter the results would work then? Though that's subject to how easy it is to walk Google's DOM which I don't know anything about + it might break.
- vezycash 6y agoPersonal Blocklist (not by Google) - has both chrome ext too https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/personal-blocklist/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/personal-bloc...
- jvzr 6y agoFor DuckDuckGo users: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ddg-hide-unwanted-results/?src=search https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/ddg-hide-unwa...
- ffpip 6y agoYou can with uBO. Example with pinterest. replace pinterest with whatever you want, like facebook, etc. https://pastebin.com/5diH8Weh https://pastebin.com/5diH8Weh
- AmericanChopper 6y agoThe w3schools python docs aren’t bad. I was recently tutoring a family member in a level 1 compsci course that was being taught with python, and the w3schools documentation was waaaaaay easier to consume than the docs.python.org stuff.
- Havoc 6y agow3s didn't something evil in the past that I missed?
- amelius 6y agoYes, SEO-ing and content-farming their half-baked web documentation.
- brigandish 6y agoTo be fair to them, it seems they've improved a lot in the last few years. I've no problem using them nowadays.
- hbcondo714 6y agoI thought they upped their game too but it turned out to be a copycat: https://www.w3resource.com/ https://www.w3resource.com/
- whoisjuan 6y agow3schools might not be the canonical and authoritative source for web technologies documentation but sometimes I find the most straightforward answer there. They don’t deserve the hate they get. What people seem to hate from w3 is how light and loose they go about things, potentially opening some lanes for bad practices. But they have improved a lot throughout the years. Also people don’t seem to acknowledge how hard is to create non-verbose documentation. I can’t imagine the amount of effort that it takes to trim all the fat and still produce something useful. I almost get the feeling that people who hate w3schools, simply hate the concept of a resource that is trying to make easy what is by nature pretty hard. I guess that’s how great singers feel about autotune. It’s this idea that if you can’t consume the raw, hardcore documentation then you’re not worth it of using that technology.
- wy35 6y agoI agree, honestly I use w3schools more than MDN when I'm googling stuff. Most of the time I'm just looking for a quick example of whatever HTML/CSS I need to implement, and w3schools provides that perfectly while MDN is a bit more cluttered.
- codezero 6y agoThanks all - I am simultaneously heartened by the positive attitude for this often maligned site, as well as shocked at myself for supporting them myself :) Quite the rubber-band effect, but super nice to see a civil discussion about this topic on HN.
- manquer 6y agoMDN is not a guide or tutorial. It is more like a manual or reference, searching a manual or reference, works only when you know what you are looking for. Reading it like a book is better way to use it until you are familiar with it. Yes it takes more time but it pays off. Learning of the manual once you get used to it is better because, You get answers to questions that you did not know you had . It gives you a comprehensive understanding of the entire feature set, not just the stuff that looks important now . Copy pasting a implementation of stackOverflow/ w3schools etc usually keeps us in search and copy loop, constantly searching for some snippet without fully understanding how or why. Many times we end up spending a lot of time in frustration when the full solution is hack from four different places and they don't seem to work together.
- enjeyw 6y agoI too feel a bit dirty saying this, but I actually really like a lot of the w3schools docs - terrible place to learn to code, but great for quickly remembering how do to something that you totally knew at some point but have just forgotten.
- codezero 6y agoI wore my nerd badge for a while shitting on w3schools - mostly because very early on, it was filled with really wrong information, when it mattered. I think over time, that wrong information was less detrimental to learning, while still being here and there. I met too many people over the years who started with w3schools and continued on, so it became clear my sense about it was mostly dogma - if folks turned lemons into lemonade and think fondly of it, who am I to yuck that yum :)
- cleaver 6y agoEverybody has used them, but nobody wants to admit it ;) I for one, would like to know who does their SEO... they are often at the top of the results for many searches.
- enjeyw 6y agoHahaha if there's a w3schools tutorial I'd definitely take seriously it'd be one on SEO! By extension - the best SEO guide is almost certainly the first listing for 'SEO guide' on google.
- nitrogen 6y agoBy extension - the best SEO guide is almost certainly the first listing for 'SEO guide' on google. Only if you can assume that they followed their own guide. I could see an SEO company posting a fake guide to make their own techniques more effective relative to any competition using that guide.
- perryizgr8 6y agoI actually prefer w3 schools to MDN. If I accidentally click on an MDN link it confuses me for a few seconds before I realize what happened and navigate back to w3.
- duxup 6y agow3schools is plenty good now. It's not the dictionary in terms of details... but it does have a lot more plain English explanations sometimes. w3schools has its place alongside MDN, although I feel like MDN has been working hard at being a little more plain English these days / more examples.
- kgraves 6y ago> I feel dirty anytime I accidentally click on it. If it does the job, then why feel dirty?