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So if Adorama sells on amazon.com, does adorama the corporation become an employee of amazon? If the separation on that mindfuck is 'register a corp / LLC', th

by novok 6y ago

So if Adorama sells on amazon.com, does adorama the corporation become an employee of amazon? If the separation on that mindfuck is 'register a corp / LLC', then what prevents drivers making an LLC to drive for uber?

omnipugent 6y ago
Couldn't Uber allow other operating companies to use its service along with Raiser/Raizer LLC as long as they follow certain platform terms?
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Keyframe 6y ago
That’s exactly how they operate in, for example, Croatia. Every driver owns an LLC.
jmwilson 6y ago
There's the $800 California LLC annual fee, which is the highest in the country, and applies before you make a dollar in revenue.
- kadoban 6y ago
  Does something prevent incorporating in another location that allows it? Doubt it.
  - jmwilson 6y ago
    Of course they could do that, but any corporation or LLC that does business in California [1] (surely a Uber driver operating in California would be considered as such) has to pay the fee. Incorporating out of state would just mean a second set of fees and more forms to file. [1] https://www.ftb.ca.gov/file/business/doing-business-in-california.html https://www.ftb.ca.gov/file/business/doing-business-in-calif...
    - kadoban 6y ago
      Ah, I did not know that. Thanks
- paul_f 6y ago
  You don't need an LLC to run a business. Plenty of sole proprietors do this along with filing self employment taxes without ever forming an LLC.
gamblor956 6y ago
No, because Adorama is a company, and companies can't be employees... Nothing prevents drivers from registering LLCs to drive for uber, and that is in fact what the CA DOL website says is a bare minimum for satisfying another part of AB5.
lkrubner 6y ago
I think you might mean this as a "gotcha" but it is the correct way to move forward, for both individuals and the nation. Incorporation allows the kind of formalization that the government prefers, and that point the government is much more willing to recognize an independent supplier.
Retric 6y ago
The people absolutely required for Amazon to function are actual employees. Remove drivers and Uber’s business instantly shuts down literally that second, but Amazon can keep selling until their inventory runs out. Amazon.com sells inanimate objects or intellectual property which can’t be employees. Uber sells rides which require a physical person to preform them. So, I really don’t understand what your trying to convey.

by novok 6y ago

omnipugent 6y ago

Couldn't Uber allow other operating companies to use its service along with Raiser/Raizer LLC as long as they follow certain platform terms?

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Keyframe 6y ago

That’s exactly how they operate in, for example, Croatia. Every driver owns an LLC.

jmwilson 6y ago

There's the $800 California LLC annual fee, which is the highest in the country, and applies before you make a dollar in revenue.

kadoban 6y ago
Does something prevent incorporating in another location that allows it? Doubt it.
- jmwilson 6y ago
  Of course they could do that, but any corporation or LLC that does business in California [1] (surely a Uber driver operating in California would be considered as such) has to pay the fee. Incorporating out of state would just mean a second set of fees and more forms to file. [1] https://www.ftb.ca.gov/file/business/doing-business-in-california.html https://www.ftb.ca.gov/file/business/doing-business-in-calif...
  - kadoban 6y ago
    Ah, I did not know that. Thanks
paul_f 6y ago
You don't need an LLC to run a business. Plenty of sole proprietors do this along with filing self employment taxes without ever forming an LLC.

gamblor956 6y ago

No, because Adorama is a company, and companies can't be employees... Nothing prevents drivers from registering LLCs to drive for uber, and that is in fact what the CA DOL website says is a bare minimum for satisfying another part of AB5.

lkrubner 6y ago

I think you might mean this as a "gotcha" but it is the correct way to move forward, for both individuals and the nation. Incorporation allows the kind of formalization that the government prefers, and that point the government is much more willing to recognize an independent supplier.

Retric 6y ago

The people absolutely required for Amazon to function are actual employees. Remove drivers and Uber’s business instantly shuts down literally that second, but Amazon can keep selling until their inventory runs out. Amazon.com sells inanimate objects or intellectual property which can’t be employees. Uber sells rides which require a physical person to preform them. So, I really don’t understand what your trying to convey.