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I'm on the fence just based on the camera. Thats' my 1, 2 & 3 decision maker at this point with young kids. The universal feedback I've seen from peers who ar

by tw04 6y ago

I'm on the fence just based on the camera. Thats' my 1, 2 & 3 decision maker at this point with young kids. The universal feedback I've seen from peers who are considering the pre-order is: I can stop carrying around an iPad. $1399 replaces an ipad and a phone for them. Time will tell if the usability matches their expectations.

on_and_off 6y ago
I don't even have kids and camera is also the deciding factor for me. For that reason, seeing Marc Levoy calling it quit at Google makes me pessimistic for the next pixels. to be fair the 4 was already a bit underwhelming in that area (flagship level camera but unlike the previous generations it did not really push the enveloppe).
spanhandler 6y ago
Parent here. I won't buy a phone that doesn't have a good camera and take "live photos". The camera is the only reason I've not looked into getting rid of my smart phone entirely. I'd have to find some way to keep WhatsApp working, though, or else convince my entire contact list to migrate, and find a solution for MFA that works with everything from Steam to Github, so either of those might end up being blockers if I actually tried, but I'm not trying because I won't give up a good Internet-connected camera (=auto-backups) that takes live photos. I just gave it a quick DDG, and it looks like that still means my only option is iPhones (or 3rd-party apps on Android, but I am very skeptical the experience & results with those would be anywhere near as good).
- on_and_off 6y ago
  by live photos you mean photos with a live 0.5 second video shot ? Android has been having this for a pretty long while as well, at least on pixel. Off the top of my head, no idea if this applies to the whole ecosystem (might be pixel only, might be google camera only (so that would apply to any phone where you can install this app) or it might even be a pixel feature but tons of OEMs have already duplicated it (that's not exactly a recent feature so I would not be surprised)
  - spanhandler 6y ago
    Oh, yeah, just DDG'd it because I was curious whether Android had it now and all I could find were a bunch of "good news, now you can get live photos on your Android phone with a third party app!" hits. Cool that they have it now, too. AFAIK no stand-alone cameras have the feature, which is too bad.

by tw04 6y ago

on_and_off 6y ago

I don't even have kids and camera is also the deciding factor for me. For that reason, seeing Marc Levoy calling it quit at Google makes me pessimistic for the next pixels. to be fair the 4 was already a bit underwhelming in that area (flagship level camera but unlike the previous generations it did not really push the enveloppe).

spanhandler 6y ago

Parent here. I won't buy a phone that doesn't have a good camera and take "live photos". The camera is the only reason I've not looked into getting rid of my smart phone entirely. I'd have to find some way to keep WhatsApp working, though, or else convince my entire contact list to migrate, and find a solution for MFA that works with everything from Steam to Github, so either of those might end up being blockers if I actually tried, but I'm not trying because I won't give up a good Internet-connected camera (=auto-backups) that takes live photos. I just gave it a quick DDG, and it looks like that still means my only option is iPhones (or 3rd-party apps on Android, but I am very skeptical the experience & results with those would be anywhere near as good).

on_and_off 6y ago
by live photos you mean photos with a live 0.5 second video shot ? Android has been having this for a pretty long while as well, at least on pixel. Off the top of my head, no idea if this applies to the whole ecosystem (might be pixel only, might be google camera only (so that would apply to any phone where you can install this app) or it might even be a pixel feature but tons of OEMs have already duplicated it (that's not exactly a recent feature so I would not be surprised)
- spanhandler 6y ago
  Oh, yeah, just DDG'd it because I was curious whether Android had it now and all I could find were a bunch of "good news, now you can get live photos on your Android phone with a third party app!" hits. Cool that they have it now, too. AFAIK no stand-alone cameras have the feature, which is too bad.