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Can you explain how for those of us who don't follow .Net very closely?

by sime2009 6y ago

krageon 6y ago
It doesn't, because .net core doesn't ship with cross-platform GUI toolkits. You have the usual options, which are all bad.
- fassssst 6y ago
  https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/introducing-net-multi-platform-app-ui/ https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/introducing-net-multi-...
  - longstation 6y ago
    Linux is not supported.
    - Gibbon1 6y ago
      yet
      - krageon 6y ago
        From what I can tell of the repository, it's up to the "Community" to make a Linux version of this.
        Gibbon1 6y ago
        There are three problems. One that even with the resources MS has at it's disposal it's taken them half a decade to make their framework cross platform. Second it makes sense for them to target the big three that represents 95% of the market. And Linux desktop isn't one of those. And third the Linux community is hostile. Back in 2010 they could have embraced Mono which was sorely needed but didn't out of just spite. Brings up a third point when talking about development. Microsoft is providing a posix compatible dev environment under Win10. The threat that poses is completely unappreciated.
        krageon 6y ago
        The open-source community doesn't like Microsoft because Microsoft is hostile to open-source. It's their MO to embrace things first and people with short memories laud them for it every time. It's very disingenuous to quote their hostility as one of the problems when really it's a logical historical development. They're going to have to put in a lot more effort to make amends for all the terrible things they've done over the years. But all of that is really beside the point. Saying the "community" needs to fix it means they won't put time or effort into doing it themselves, which by extension means the integration will most likely never be as good as what they have prioritised. This will relegate their "cross-platform" solution to the realm of all the other frameworks: Bad.
  - krageon 6y ago
    Nobody can program using a framework that may one day support their OS. It's either real or it is not and currently this is not real, just an empty bag of not even promises.

Can you explain how for those of us who don't follow .Net very closely?

It doesn't, because .net core doesn't ship with cross-platform GUI toolkits. You have the usual options, which are all bad.

fassssst 6y ago
https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/introducing-net-multi-platform-app-ui/ https://devblogs.microsoft.com/dotnet/introducing-net-multi-...
- longstation 6y ago
  Linux is not supported.
  - Gibbon1 6y ago
    yet
    - krageon 6y ago
      From what I can tell of the repository, it's up to the "Community" to make a Linux version of this.
      - Gibbon1 6y ago
        There are three problems. One that even with the resources MS has at it's disposal it's taken them half a decade to make their framework cross platform. Second it makes sense for them to target the big three that represents 95% of the market. And Linux desktop isn't one of those. And third the Linux community is hostile. Back in 2010 they could have embraced Mono which was sorely needed but didn't out of just spite. Brings up a third point when talking about development. Microsoft is providing a posix compatible dev environment under Win10. The threat that poses is completely unappreciated.
        krageon 6y ago
        The open-source community doesn't like Microsoft because Microsoft is hostile to open-source. It's their MO to embrace things first and people with short memories laud them for it every time. It's very disingenuous to quote their hostility as one of the problems when really it's a logical historical development. They're going to have to put in a lot more effort to make amends for all the terrible things they've done over the years. But all of that is really beside the point. Saying the "community" needs to fix it means they won't put time or effort into doing it themselves, which by extension means the integration will most likely never be as good as what they have prioritised. This will relegate their "cross-platform" solution to the realm of all the other frameworks: Bad.
- krageon 6y ago
  Nobody can program using a framework that may one day support their OS. It's either real or it is not and currently this is not real, just an empty bag of not even promises.