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It looks like we are breaking the internet up along the lines of political boundaries. The US will have one internet, the EU another, China yet another... Hopef
by consultutah 6y ago
It looks like we are breaking the internet up along the lines of political boundaries. The US will have one internet, the EU another, China yet another... Hopefully the pendulum will swing back in the other direction soon...
- cmckn 6y agoHopefully, none of this will be implemented and we can all forget Mike Pompeo exists in 6 months.
- slater 6y ago84 more days till election... fingers & toes crossed
- loceng 6y agoThe election may already be "decided" through fraudulent means with the USPS being captured. Trump's USPS' Postmaster General replacement, along with who recently fired 23 USPS executives: "Lawmakers Demand Removal of Postmaster General DeJoy Over 'Nefarious' Efforts to Destroy the Postal Service and 'Aid Trump Reelection'" - https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/i71z41/lawmakers_demand_removal_of_postmaster_general/ https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/i71z41/lawmakers_...
- TehCorwiz 6y agoMany municipalities have no-justification-needed absentee voting (vote-by-mail by any other name) which can be dropped off often weeks before in-person voting occurs. Likewise many places have early in-person voting. 1. Check your voter registration. 2. Register to vote if you need to and it's still open for registration in your state. 3. VOTE as soon as you can. If you're voting absentee then drop off your ballot early if possible. If you're voting in-person then look into early voting to avoid lines and keep everyone safe.
- zrail 6y agoThe key this year is to _personally drop off your ballot_ at an official drop point rather than mailing it in. USPS can and will deprioritize mail in ballots for the fall elections.
- dekhn 6y agoThis is an unsupported assertion. We have no specific data to suggest that this would happen.
- TehCorwiz 6y agoI mean, I know that with less than 90 days before one of the largest absentee voting elections in the history of the nation that I would fire 23 USPS administrators on a Friday evening several days after admitting to congress to slowing down mail delivery. That seems reasonable. Right? https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielcassady/2020/08/06/postmaster-general-said-to-admit-to-imposing-rules-that-would-slow-delivery-of-mail/#cad190d7d68a https://www.forbes.com/sites/danielcassady/2020/08/06/postma... https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/08/07/postal-service-investigation-dejoy/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/08/07/postal-se...
- dekhn 6y agoDo administrators speed mail delivery?
- tikwidd 6y agoThe DNC has criticised Trump for not being tough enough on China. I don't think anything is going to change soon.
- dominotw 6y agohow will Chinese internet "swing back" if Pompeo stops existing. Chinese invented their great firewall for trump, that your logic?
- detaro 6y agoIt won't, but it's already not part of what we typically consider "the internet". One country pretty much always being isolated from it is somewhat different than further ripping the currently-connected bits apart. > Chinese invented their great firewall for trump, that your logic? That's a completely needless swipe.
- dominotw 6y ago> That's a completely needless swipe. gp edited his/her comment after mine
- jayd16 6y agoThis admin is making it worse (see: article). Perhaps a new admin can make it better.
- golem14 6y agoHope is not a strategy. AFAICT, both parties basically support stronger state control and more surveillance. It will be interesting to see how EU/China/Russia/USA spheres of influence will develop. With the pandemic, a lot of "unthinkable" things have happened (travel prohibition from US to EU etc), so I think the various factions are emboldened to double down on - keeping their data in their sphere - improve surveillance of own citizenry * China of course has been pretty much on this track for years. * EU is using privacy as the good cause to sell this * US is now doing the same with national security as excuse. I don't see the big picture changing just because the president and administration change (if they do).
- 9HZZRfNlpR 6y agoJudging by your politics the other party will do the same citing Russian interference, you will always be slaves to your two party system abs continue fighting with each other.
- bobajeff 6y ago>Hopefully the pendulum will swing back in the other direction soon Narrator: "It didn't."
- socraticmethod 6y ago>Narrator: "It didn't." Yuck. I read HN to avoid these kind of low effort canned responses.
- clevergadget 6y agoit swings back when we invent new protocols - which is to say it never swings back. From traditional publishing to radio to tv to the internet to gentrification once the bastards get control you gotta make the next thing.
- 52-6F-62 6y agoThis isn't just protocols, though. At least to me it sounds like an announcement that they plan to "cut the lines" to countries that don't adhere to the standards of the current American administration. A new protocol won't allow you to communicate with people in the United States if you're on a "blacklisted" comms company's network.
- pathseeker 6y agoWell that's not how the Internet works. Perhaps they can blacklist prefixes from being accepted by American ISPs, but as long as ISPs peer with any ISPs from outside of the country, those advertisements will be coming in.
- 52-6F-62 6y agoIt sounds to me that this document is outlining their plan to change how the (read: "how their") internet works. No "path" that connects to any hardware that the US can arbitrarily deem as being in bed with the CCP. It sounds like "clean" American ISP's won't be allowed to peer with arbitrarily "unclean" service providers of any kind or else risk losing their "cleanliness" designation.
- intotheabyss 6y agoThere are new protocols being invented; namely the decentralized web protocols (IPFS, web3, dat (Breaker), etc. ). Whether you think cryptocurrencies are useful or not, there is a push to build a new open decentralized internet using these protocols and IPFS + ENS domains and the web3 protocol stack on Ethereum.
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- x3n0ph3n3 6y agoChina already has their own internet.
- adsjhdashkj 6y agoYea, i'd rather not follow suit.
- typon 6y agoThe whole point is for the US to be a leader, not a follower. If China wants their own internet, let them suffer.
- evan_ 6y agoin fact the best thing to do to fight the Great Firewall of China is to make it easier for the Chinese people to access the internet-at-large including sites hosted in the US. This program will do the opposite.
- Loughla 6y agoThis is 100% the answer, and one thing I've never understood about many, many aspects of American life. If you want people to act a certain way, you incentivize that thing, not punish the opposite of the thing. You want people to stop doing drugs? Make programs designed to support them during the withdrawal process, provide counseling and other necessary supports, and make it free. You want people off of welfare? Provide career training and education, and assistance in the job search process, and make it free. Punishment doesn't give you what you want, it gives you the appearance of getting what you want, while the people you punish spend their time trying to figure out how to lie their way around you.
- evan_ 6y agoPunishment does let them imprison people, disproportionately black men, who they can then use for slave labor.
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- zolosa 6y agoHopefully that would end the monopoly of US tech Giants.