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I didn't say that schools, roads and hospitals are not necessities. I would say schools, roads and hospitals are necessities for the government to run a modern

I didn't say that schools, roads and hospitals are not necessities. I would say schools, roads and hospitals are necessities for the government to run a modern society. They decided and they did it. You and I paid for it. Just on the roads point, without a government, we might all be flying personal helicopters, no roads required.

disgruntledphd2 6y ago
And without a penis, I'd be a woman :) Seriously, I don't think that you have a strong argument here, and if you really feel this way, then you should try and articulate the issues you see with government in a way that might convince others. And it's not they (unless you're stateless or an immigrant), it's we. We pay taxes so that our delegates (government) can provide us services. It's a worthy trade, in my belief at least.
- feralimal 6y ago
  :) Funny Of course we don't know what might or might not occur, if the situation were different. But the fact is that neither you nor I decided on roads. The government decided. I don't see what's weak about that. The government is 'they', its not 'we' (though you may identify with its actions). I want no part of it, but despite my lack of agreement with anything that it does, it is inflicted on me anyway. I am coerced to pay taxes. You are in agreement with a system where a big gang can use their superior numbers to force another person to do what they say, despite that other person having done them no wrong. So, seriously, if you have a counter argument, please go ahead and make it. Please explain what number or percentage of people makes it ok to force another person to part with 40% of their income against their will. I'd like to hear your argument. Be sure to explain the difference between government tax and mafia protection money too. Cheers.

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I didn't say that schools, roads and hospitals are not necessities. I would say schools, roads and hospitals are necessities for the government to run a modern

by feralimal 6y ago

disgruntledphd2 6y ago
And without a penis, I'd be a woman :) Seriously, I don't think that you have a strong argument here, and if you really feel this way, then you should try and articulate the issues you see with government in a way that might convince others. And it's not they (unless you're stateless or an immigrant), it's we. We pay taxes so that our delegates (government) can provide us services. It's a worthy trade, in my belief at least.
- feralimal 6y ago
  :) Funny Of course we don't know what might or might not occur, if the situation were different. But the fact is that neither you nor I decided on roads. The government decided. I don't see what's weak about that. The government is 'they', its not 'we' (though you may identify with its actions). I want no part of it, but despite my lack of agreement with anything that it does, it is inflicted on me anyway. I am coerced to pay taxes. You are in agreement with a system where a big gang can use their superior numbers to force another person to do what they say, despite that other person having done them no wrong. So, seriously, if you have a counter argument, please go ahead and make it. Please explain what number or percentage of people makes it ok to force another person to part with 40% of their income against their will. I'd like to hear your argument. Be sure to explain the difference between government tax and mafia protection money too. Cheers.