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Much worse and possibly catastrophic if the government doesn’t get its shit together on the next stimulus. Now Trump gets to look like a hero with his executive

by cik2e 6y ago

Much worse and possibly catastrophic if the government doesn’t get its shit together on the next stimulus. Now Trump gets to look like a hero with his executive orders, and honestly you can’t blame the administration for taking the easy layup. Hopefully this shames congress into doing its job because it’s unlikely that the critical unemployment benefit will be getting paid out anytime soon via this route.

scarface74 6y ago
And he wants to force the states to pay 25%.
thechao 6y ago
Is this one of those “there’s good people on both sides” arguments? It’s not House that can’t get their shit together, it is literally the GOP controlled Senate (specifically, Mitch McConnell) who is causing this. People are going to die because of his stonewalling — I bet it’s possible to actually calculate; what wonder how he’ll end up comparing to other psychopaths?
- SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
  If you've come to the conclusion that the Senate majority leader is deliberately setting out to kill Americans cause he's just evil like that, you've surely made an error somewhere in your reasoning.
  - thechao 6y ago
    He’s deliberately withholding money. Money is cross-fungible with expected life-span. Therefore, the withholding of funds can be equated with loss of years; every lost ~78 years is a lost life. I used to do these analyses at UTMB Galveston when interning in the nosicomia division.
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    - SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
      That seems like the source of the error to me. It can't be the case that anyone who ever rejects a proposal to spend money is inflicting a loss of life years.
      - D-Coder 6y ago
        Not normally. This situation however is not normal.
      - TomSwirly 6y ago
        > It can't be the case that anyone who ever rejects a proposal to spend money is inflicting a loss of life years. Not all proposals are the same. A man who refuses to buy his child a new video game console is not the same as a man who refuses to pay for his child's life-saving surgery. Your jump from "refusing to act against a deadly plague" to "refusing any spending proposal at any time" is breathtaking: I'm a little skeptical that this was a pure mistake...
  - TomSwirly 6y ago
    Show your reasoning! 165,000 Americans are dead. Most of them died in agony on a respirator. The vast majority of those deaths were completely avoidable: https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/19/faster-response-prevented-most-us-covid-19-deaths/ https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/19/faster-response-prevente... And people of color are hugely overrepresented in this number. Since the start of the pandemic, McConnell has systematically opposed any rational reaction to it, and strongly supported the psychopathic lies of Donald Trump. McConnell is not some nice old man who systematically caused tremendous damage to the hundred million poorest and blackest Americans for the last thirty years by mistake and now accidentally killed another hundred thousand, sorry guys! I strongly hesitate to use the word "evil" in general - but if any human ever has been evil, then McConnell is a profoundly evil man.

by cik2e 6y ago

scarface74 6y ago

And he wants to force the states to pay 25%.

thechao 6y ago

Is this one of those “there’s good people on both sides” arguments? It’s not House that can’t get their shit together, it is literally the GOP controlled Senate (specifically, Mitch McConnell) who is causing this. People are going to die because of his stonewalling — I bet it’s possible to actually calculate; what wonder how he’ll end up comparing to other psychopaths?

SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
If you've come to the conclusion that the Senate majority leader is deliberately setting out to kill Americans cause he's just evil like that, you've surely made an error somewhere in your reasoning.
- thechao 6y ago
  He’s deliberately withholding money. Money is cross-fungible with expected life-span. Therefore, the withholding of funds can be equated with loss of years; every lost ~78 years is a lost life. I used to do these analyses at UTMB Galveston when interning in the nosicomia division.
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  - SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
    That seems like the source of the error to me. It can't be the case that anyone who ever rejects a proposal to spend money is inflicting a loss of life years.
    - D-Coder 6y ago
      Not normally. This situation however is not normal.
    - TomSwirly 6y ago
      > It can't be the case that anyone who ever rejects a proposal to spend money is inflicting a loss of life years. Not all proposals are the same. A man who refuses to buy his child a new video game console is not the same as a man who refuses to pay for his child's life-saving surgery. Your jump from "refusing to act against a deadly plague" to "refusing any spending proposal at any time" is breathtaking: I'm a little skeptical that this was a pure mistake...
- TomSwirly 6y ago
  Show your reasoning! 165,000 Americans are dead. Most of them died in agony on a respirator. The vast majority of those deaths were completely avoidable: https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/19/faster-response-prevented-most-us-covid-19-deaths/ https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/19/faster-response-prevente... And people of color are hugely overrepresented in this number. Since the start of the pandemic, McConnell has systematically opposed any rational reaction to it, and strongly supported the psychopathic lies of Donald Trump. McConnell is not some nice old man who systematically caused tremendous damage to the hundred million poorest and blackest Americans for the last thirty years by mistake and now accidentally killed another hundred thousand, sorry guys! I strongly hesitate to use the word "evil" in general - but if any human ever has been evil, then McConnell is a profoundly evil man.