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Trump has been attacking US states, US federal agencies, US allies, and many subsets of American citizens since he took office. By most accounts he is not worki

by dqpb 6y ago

Trump has been attacking US states, US federal agencies, US allies, and many subsets of American citizens since he took office. By most accounts he is not working in the interest of the US. Who is he working for? That's an open question.

Darmody 6y ago
He IS working for the US. But having a different agenda than you doesn't make him a Putin puppet.
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- dqpb 6y ago
  It's impossible for me to know who he thinks he's working for. But I can clearly see, from his words and his actions, who he might-as-well-be working for.
  - Darmody 6y ago
    But that's a simplistic way to look at it. At least I think so. I do stuff that could make you think I "work" for Biden and I do stuff that could make you think I "work" for Trump. Also, why do you speak in code? If you think he's working for Putin you can say it. It doesn't matter. It won't get you arrested.
vgrafe 6y ago
He is working for himself only. Too self-centered to put anyone/anything else above his interests, which makes him oblivious and predictable, with a massive amount of people profiting off that fact.
lopmotr 6y ago
This Russia-Trump conspiracy theory is one of the left's intellectual failures. You might as well believe Obama is a Muslim spy or the Illuminati controls the world or whatever. You've just been worked up into a frenzy by the media and don't realize it.
- totalZero 6y ago
  I wouldn't equate Trump-Russia collusion with birtherism and other anti-Obama smears, for many reasons. Here are five. * Russia systematically influenced internet forums, Twitter, etc, to help Trump in the 2016 election. This influence campaign is documented in the Mueller report, and several individuals and companies have been indicted. American intelligence says that Russia currently continues this activity. * Mueller stated in his report that a lack of candor from several people interviewed as part of his investigation impeded the collection of evidence about coordination between Trump and Russia. Failure to bring charges against a person does not exonerate that person. * Mueller did not set out to address the question of whether Trump "colluded" with Russia, and even if he addressed that topic in his report, there's no way for the public to know that, because the report is still heavily redacted. * Manafort, Donald Jr., and Kushner met with representatives of the Russian government in Trump Tower. They did not disclose this to officials until Kushner was forced to revise his SF-86 because he failed to include information about his relationships with several key foreigners. * Trump has sought election assistance from other foreign governments, including using missile defense as leverage over the Ukrainian president, as well as (according to Bolton) using a meeting with Xi Jinpeng to ask repeatedly for help with his re-election campaign.
  - cmurf 6y ago
    It isn't just Trump, it's an entire subset of the GOP who are actively pushing Kremlin propaganda, just to hold onto power. Senators, including Ron Johnson (R-Wisconsin), in the middle of an egregiously poor pandemic response, accepting and spreading Russian propaganda, wants to yet again start up investigations of Biden and his son, in September. It's soooo important he has to wait until September, to release this urgently important report. Well timed, however, to try and influence an election. He clearly think his own constituents are gullible morons, or else he'd be more worried about getting punished at the polls. But in fact, he thinks this will work. https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/2139-statement-by-ncsc-director-william-evanina-election-threat-update-for-the-american-public https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/2...
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by dqpb 6y ago

Darmody 6y ago

He IS working for the US. But having a different agenda than you doesn't make him a Putin puppet.

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dqpb 6y ago
It's impossible for me to know who he thinks he's working for. But I can clearly see, from his words and his actions, who he might-as-well-be working for.
- Darmody 6y ago
  But that's a simplistic way to look at it. At least I think so. I do stuff that could make you think I "work" for Biden and I do stuff that could make you think I "work" for Trump. Also, why do you speak in code? If you think he's working for Putin you can say it. It doesn't matter. It won't get you arrested.

vgrafe 6y ago

He is working for himself only. Too self-centered to put anyone/anything else above his interests, which makes him oblivious and predictable, with a massive amount of people profiting off that fact.

lopmotr 6y ago

This Russia-Trump conspiracy theory is one of the left's intellectual failures. You might as well believe Obama is a Muslim spy or the Illuminati controls the world or whatever. You've just been worked up into a frenzy by the media and don't realize it.

totalZero 6y ago
I wouldn't equate Trump-Russia collusion with birtherism and other anti-Obama smears, for many reasons. Here are five. * Russia systematically influenced internet forums, Twitter, etc, to help Trump in the 2016 election. This influence campaign is documented in the Mueller report, and several individuals and companies have been indicted. American intelligence says that Russia currently continues this activity. * Mueller stated in his report that a lack of candor from several people interviewed as part of his investigation impeded the collection of evidence about coordination between Trump and Russia. Failure to bring charges against a person does not exonerate that person. * Mueller did not set out to address the question of whether Trump "colluded" with Russia, and even if he addressed that topic in his report, there's no way for the public to know that, because the report is still heavily redacted. * Manafort, Donald Jr., and Kushner met with representatives of the Russian government in Trump Tower. They did not disclose this to officials until Kushner was forced to revise his SF-86 because he failed to include information about his relationships with several key foreigners. * Trump has sought election assistance from other foreign governments, including using missile defense as leverage over the Ukrainian president, as well as (according to Bolton) using a meeting with Xi Jinpeng to ask repeatedly for help with his re-election campaign.
- cmurf 6y ago
  It isn't just Trump, it's an entire subset of the GOP who are actively pushing Kremlin propaganda, just to hold onto power. Senators, including Ron Johnson (R-Wisconsin), in the middle of an egregiously poor pandemic response, accepting and spreading Russian propaganda, wants to yet again start up investigations of Biden and his son, in September. It's soooo important he has to wait until September, to release this urgently important report. Well timed, however, to try and influence an election. He clearly think his own constituents are gullible morons, or else he'd be more worried about getting punished at the polls. But in fact, he thinks this will work. https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/2139-statement-by-ncsc-director-william-evanina-election-threat-update-for-the-american-public https://www.dni.gov/index.php/newsroom/press-releases/item/2...
- lopmotr 6y ago