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The options I know of are the Pinephone and the Librem 5. They're various degrees of open source and secure. They're also slow, lack most software, require cons

The options I know of are the Pinephone and the Librem 5. They're various degrees of open source and secure. They're also slow, lack most software, require constant tinkering, and have terrible battery life. The pragmatic option is to get an Android phone you can install LineageOS on, use the fDroid store, and don't install Google services. This way you can sideload normal apps if you need them.

encom 6y ago
>Android phone you can install LineageOS on What would be good candidate phone for that? Is there a phone that is friendly towards hackers in that way?
- bmarquez 6y ago
  Looking at the LineageOS downloads page OnePlus has strong support (as a ratio of the number of phones they released to the number of phones that are compatible). Another idea is to check XDA Developers and see which forums are most active. https://download.lineageos.org/ https://download.lineageos.org/
  - Tainnor 6y ago
    The OnePlus phones are good and they run on Lineage, but they do bundle google services by default. Of course, you can unlock the bootloader (wasn't too hard on the OP6, or the OPO before that, not sure about newer devices) and flash whatever you want, though, if you want to get rid of google services.
- yorwba 6y ago
  The list of supported devices is here: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/
- worstenbrood 6y ago
  I just bought a oneplus pro 7 with lineage and microg and i love it !
- solarkraft 6y ago
  I'm happy with my Pocophone F1. It's not the only phone with very good ROM/Free software support, but among the cheapest (around 300€, maybe a bit less by now, it should now also be available used). It has lots of RAM, an SD card slot, a headphone jack, a high-end processor, a large battery and most importantly is very repairable (a screen costs about 20€). The initial unlocking process is a bit annoying and stupid, but after that it's quite nice. The only thing you could say it really lacks is NFC.
- neurostimulant 6y ago
  If you intend to flash custom rom on your phone, generally avoid devices with mediatek (or other non-qualcomm) chipsets because they tend to have higher risk of hard-bricking when you messed up which will require sending the phone to a service center to fix.
AsyncAwait 6y ago
I guess it depends what you use your phone for, but Mobian[1] on the PinePhone is a surprisingly decent daily driver for me. 1 - https://mobian-project.org https://mobian-project.org
- Miraste 6y ago
  It works for some use cases, I don't mean to imply otherwise. For my use cases... I have more apps installed on my phone than Mobian has in its repository.

encom 6y ago

>Android phone you can install LineageOS on What would be good candidate phone for that? Is there a phone that is friendly towards hackers in that way?

bmarquez 6y ago
Looking at the LineageOS downloads page OnePlus has strong support (as a ratio of the number of phones they released to the number of phones that are compatible). Another idea is to check XDA Developers and see which forums are most active. https://download.lineageos.org/ https://download.lineageos.org/
- Tainnor 6y ago
  The OnePlus phones are good and they run on Lineage, but they do bundle google services by default. Of course, you can unlock the bootloader (wasn't too hard on the OP6, or the OPO before that, not sure about newer devices) and flash whatever you want, though, if you want to get rid of google services.
yorwba 6y ago
The list of supported devices is here: https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/ https://wiki.lineageos.org/devices/
worstenbrood 6y ago
I just bought a oneplus pro 7 with lineage and microg and i love it !
solarkraft 6y ago
I'm happy with my Pocophone F1. It's not the only phone with very good ROM/Free software support, but among the cheapest (around 300€, maybe a bit less by now, it should now also be available used). It has lots of RAM, an SD card slot, a headphone jack, a high-end processor, a large battery and most importantly is very repairable (a screen costs about 20€). The initial unlocking process is a bit annoying and stupid, but after that it's quite nice. The only thing you could say it really lacks is NFC.
neurostimulant 6y ago
If you intend to flash custom rom on your phone, generally avoid devices with mediatek (or other non-qualcomm) chipsets because they tend to have higher risk of hard-bricking when you messed up which will require sending the phone to a service center to fix.

AsyncAwait 6y ago

I guess it depends what you use your phone for, but Mobian[1] on the PinePhone is a surprisingly decent daily driver for me. 1 - https://mobian-project.org https://mobian-project.org

Miraste 6y ago
It works for some use cases, I don't mean to imply otherwise. For my use cases... I have more apps installed on my phone than Mobian has in its repository.