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> The real warning to heed here is that we allow some countries to arrest citizens of other countries who committed crimes outside of their borders. > I know w

by ardy42 6y ago

> The real warning to heed here is that we allow some countries to arrest citizens of other countries who committed crimes outside of their borders. > I know what extradition is, but the concept of spending your whole life in country A, and having country B decide it's time to arrest you and charge you within their jurisdiction makes me uncomfortable. That's not a very accurate description of what was alleged to have gone on here. It's more like someone spending their whole life in country A, while running a smuggling network in country B, and only then having country B decide to arrest you for organizing the smuggling of illegal items into their country. This indictment wouldn't have happened if these guys had restricted their opioid sales to their country of residence.

fermienrico 6y ago
Parent comment plays into the current narrative of Anti-American sentiments and bolstering their internal prejudices with twisted reasoning and siding with massive drug smuggling operations. What’s worrying about anti-American sentiments is that people are willing to advocate for the worst of atrocities just to satiate their emotional state exasperated by media. I saw similar opinions in countless other threads. America has become the punching bag, thanks to President Trump.
- fiblye 6y ago
  Not sure what internal prejudices or twisted reasoning I have about my own country. I certainly don't know what it has to do with Trump. My concern is that countries will ship people to a country they've never been to for things like drug crimes. The standard for what's wrong is going to change in coming decades, and countries that thought it's normal to extradite people for things like drugs are going to find themselves opposing extradition for things like illegal speech, etc. And there are various charities that send things like birth control or abortion pills to women who can't legally or safely access them. I think if we saw incidences of people being extradited for mailing birth control, most people would agree it's a huge overstep.
  - nkrisc 6y ago
    Most countries will not extradite their citizens to other countries for act that aren't crimes in their own country. This was a crime in both Costa Rica and the United States.
    - akadruid1 6y ago
      The US attempted to extradite a British citizen for copyright infringement that wasn't an offence in the UK. The British government approved the extradition, although he finally reached an agreement that allowed the US to fine him and remotely monitor him. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_O%27Dwyer https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_O%27Dwyer
      - nkrisc 6y ago
        "Most" Of course there are always exceptions.

by ardy42 6y ago

fermienrico 6y ago

Parent comment plays into the current narrative of Anti-American sentiments and bolstering their internal prejudices with twisted reasoning and siding with massive drug smuggling operations. What’s worrying about anti-American sentiments is that people are willing to advocate for the worst of atrocities just to satiate their emotional state exasperated by media. I saw similar opinions in countless other threads. America has become the punching bag, thanks to President Trump.

fiblye 6y ago
Not sure what internal prejudices or twisted reasoning I have about my own country. I certainly don't know what it has to do with Trump. My concern is that countries will ship people to a country they've never been to for things like drug crimes. The standard for what's wrong is going to change in coming decades, and countries that thought it's normal to extradite people for things like drugs are going to find themselves opposing extradition for things like illegal speech, etc. And there are various charities that send things like birth control or abortion pills to women who can't legally or safely access them. I think if we saw incidences of people being extradited for mailing birth control, most people would agree it's a huge overstep.
- nkrisc 6y ago
  Most countries will not extradite their citizens to other countries for act that aren't crimes in their own country. This was a crime in both Costa Rica and the United States.
  - akadruid1 6y ago
    The US attempted to extradite a British citizen for copyright infringement that wasn't an offence in the UK. The British government approved the extradition, although he finally reached an agreement that allowed the US to fine him and remotely monitor him. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_O%27Dwyer https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_O%27Dwyer
    - nkrisc 6y ago
      "Most" Of course there are always exceptions.