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Now this one has disappeared off the front page too. I think it's being removed by automod because most of the comments are turning into downvote-heavy low-qua
by CydeWeys 6y ago
Now this one has disappeared off the front page too.
I think it's being removed by automod because most of the comments are turning into downvote-heavy low-quality bickering over use of the terms allowlist/denylist vs whitelist/blacklist. Automod tends to disfavor posts with comment sections that turn into bickering (which is roughly approximated by ratio of downvotes to upvotes).
EDIT: Aaaaand now it's flagged. I don't know it automod does that too, or if that's explicitly a user thing, or even a mod thing. I wonder if users who don't like the terms are flagging it?
- happytoexplain 6y ago>users who don't like the terms are flagging it? Charitably, it's been flagged by users who don't like the terms and/or don't like the quality of the discussion of the terms. I think it's a shame that so many simple disagreements have to be so bitterly socio-political.
- CydeWeys 6y agoYeah, that too. I just wish we could get past the transitional reactionary phase already, wherein the mere use of these new phrases triggers endless arguments, and people (who clearly know what the terms mean) can just get over it and let them pass without content. Maybe the mods should step in with some guidance. They already don't like extended discussions of politics because it devolves into flame wars too easily; maybe they should enforce the same on discussions of whitelist/blacklist/master/slave/etc terminology? Like, just let people use the new terms, no arguing about it?
- SpicyLemonZest 6y agoI think that rule would be pretty widely considered unacceptable, since it would also prohibit comments like "hey, you should use 'allowlist' rather than 'whitelist'". It's not an issue that many people are willing to accept neutrality on these days.