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Downvote me for this - If you're using China-made products, you're responsible for the bugger balls of CCP, unethical/illegal selling of human organs and what n

by mkbkn 6y ago

Downvote me for this - If you're using China-made products, you're responsible for the bugger balls of CCP, unethical/illegal selling of human organs and what not. They are no different from a radical terrorist organization.

tluyben2 6y ago
We are on HN and even here everyone will have issues identifying the make and even harder, the mining of the raw material in their phones, computers, lightbulbs. It is really not so easy to not buy from China. Maybe the end product is from Taiwan or Thailand or whatever, it still contains quite a lot of components from China. Which would make you what, a terrorist? It will take time and effort and yes, actual money (you will probably pay more) to change this. And we are on HN. Go talk to random people on the street about it.
lostlogin 6y ago
> If you're using China-made products, you're responsible What sort of limits do you have to this statement? You're posting this on a forum. Have you checked the country of origin of the servers and components used by the telecoms for their equipment between you and those servers?
- cycomanic 6y ago
  That's a straw man though. Nobody said you need to be perfect, however there are enough products where we know exactly where they made and still ignore the human rights violations, maybe that's a good start.
  - aaomidi 6y ago
    There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Stop blaming individuals and expect more from your leadership.
  - SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
    It seems to me that the original comment did indeed say you have to be perfect, and that you’re complicit with China’s worst abuses to the degree that you aren’t. I’m all in favor of boycotting China, but it seems extraordinarily counterproductive to say that anyone who’s not currently boycotting is a bad person.
senectus1 6y ago
Are you going to stop using the internet just because a lot of your data goes through china?
- lostmsu 6y ago
  It probably does not though.
addHocker 6y ago
Finally, we even privatized responsibility
Thorrez 6y ago
>Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

by mkbkn 6y ago

tluyben2 6y ago

We are on HN and even here everyone will have issues identifying the make and even harder, the mining of the raw material in their phones, computers, lightbulbs. It is really not so easy to not buy from China. Maybe the end product is from Taiwan or Thailand or whatever, it still contains quite a lot of components from China. Which would make you what, a terrorist? It will take time and effort and yes, actual money (you will probably pay more) to change this. And we are on HN. Go talk to random people on the street about it.

lostlogin 6y ago

> If you're using China-made products, you're responsible What sort of limits do you have to this statement? You're posting this on a forum. Have you checked the country of origin of the servers and components used by the telecoms for their equipment between you and those servers?

cycomanic 6y ago
That's a straw man though. Nobody said you need to be perfect, however there are enough products where we know exactly where they made and still ignore the human rights violations, maybe that's a good start.
- aaomidi 6y ago
  There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Stop blaming individuals and expect more from your leadership.
- SpicyLemonZest 6y ago
  It seems to me that the original comment did indeed say you have to be perfect, and that you’re complicit with China’s worst abuses to the degree that you aren’t. I’m all in favor of boycotting China, but it seems extraordinarily counterproductive to say that anyone who’s not currently boycotting is a bad person.

senectus1 6y ago

Are you going to stop using the internet just because a lot of your data goes through china?

lostmsu 6y ago
It probably does not though.

addHocker 6y ago

Finally, we even privatized responsibility

Thorrez 6y ago

>Please don't comment about the voting on comments. It never does any good, and it makes boring reading. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html