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Tesla’s lack tons of stuff that’s standard or an option on other high end cars. They need to catch up on things like ventilated and massage seats, HUD, CarPlay,

Tesla’s lack tons of stuff that’s standard or an option on other high end cars. They need to catch up on things like ventilated and massage seats, HUD, CarPlay, bird view cameras and many many more. They’re effectively simple cars, with powerful computer and drivetrain. Adding localized and very complex feature is likely very low on their to do list, especially as their RD spending is ridiculously low, and trending downward for last few years.

TwoBit 6y ago
I read that Tesla does have ventilated seats. That Tesla isn't a fan of HUDs (I think they are OK but not important at all). That bird view cameras aren't possible unless Tesla moves their existing cameras or adds yet more. It's silly to call them simple because they lack some esoteric features while ignoring useful features they have that other cars don't, such as dynamic software updates (and many others such as their piloting).
- justapassenger 6y ago
  > I read that Tesla does have ventilated seats. It was very short lived option. > It's silly to call them simple because they lack some esoteric features Esoteric to people buying used 10 Toyota’s (there nothing wrong with that btw). But standard in high end cars. I’ve listed only few that come to top of my head, but it’s very long list, from features, through tiny gadgets in interior, sound insulation, and many others > while ignoring useful features they have that other cars don't, such as dynamic software updates Exactly as I said, powerful computer. Tesla is really good at computer stuff and drivetrain stuff. But they are very poor at rest of the car stuff. There’s nothing wrong with that - different people have different priorities for what they want from their cars. But let’s not dismiss validity of the features, just because someone’s favorite toy doesn’t have them.
brianwawok 6y ago
CarPlay is silly. CarPlay was made for legacy manufacturers who can’t make a decent UI. The UI on Tesla is generally ahead of CarPlay. Not even sure how you would do CarPlay.. a small pop-up window? It couldn’t take over the whole nav or you lose Energy display and a host of other good stuff.
- Reason077 6y ago
  CarPlay would work quite well on the Tesla UI. On the S/X display it would appear in landscape form, taking up half the screen just like other "apps". On the 3/Y it would use the right 2/3rds of the screen just like other "apps". They won't do it though, because as you say Tesla does most stuff just as well, if not better, on their native UI. And they want to keep people in their ecosystem. The main advantages of CarPlay on Tesla would be: 1) ability to install 3rd party apps, and 2) Much better voice support. But both of these are things that Tesla could implement/improve in their own software.
- ed312 6y ago
  CarPlay's UI is far better than any manufacturer I've seen so far. Using the same UI/UX as your smart phone is way more intuitive - and it'll keep pace with OS updates. I wouldn't buy a car _without_ CarPlay at this point.
  - brianwawok 6y ago
    That is true for legacy, but for me not true for the Tesla UI. I quite enjoyed CarPlay in my Honda, it solved a huge hole. But I really don't find that same hole. The only apps I really used was maps, and podcast app. I have both in the tesla info-tainment section. Would be cool if they opened the market for third party apps, could be handy for some stuff... perhaps someday?
- kasey_junk 6y ago
  New Subaru’s have the full iPad dash like Tesla’s and integrate CarPlay just fine. It’s a widget in a bigger ui.
  - brianwawok 6y ago
    So you would do it in the background where the map currently is? And the AC controls pull up over it? I guess no reason that couldn't work. It wouldn't not anything about battery health, and it would require a cable which most people don't use, but it could work.

TwoBit 6y ago

I read that Tesla does have ventilated seats. That Tesla isn't a fan of HUDs (I think they are OK but not important at all). That bird view cameras aren't possible unless Tesla moves their existing cameras or adds yet more. It's silly to call them simple because they lack some esoteric features while ignoring useful features they have that other cars don't, such as dynamic software updates (and many others such as their piloting).

justapassenger 6y ago
> I read that Tesla does have ventilated seats. It was very short lived option. > It's silly to call them simple because they lack some esoteric features Esoteric to people buying used 10 Toyota’s (there nothing wrong with that btw). But standard in high end cars. I’ve listed only few that come to top of my head, but it’s very long list, from features, through tiny gadgets in interior, sound insulation, and many others > while ignoring useful features they have that other cars don't, such as dynamic software updates Exactly as I said, powerful computer. Tesla is really good at computer stuff and drivetrain stuff. But they are very poor at rest of the car stuff. There’s nothing wrong with that - different people have different priorities for what they want from their cars. But let’s not dismiss validity of the features, just because someone’s favorite toy doesn’t have them.

brianwawok 6y ago

CarPlay is silly. CarPlay was made for legacy manufacturers who can’t make a decent UI. The UI on Tesla is generally ahead of CarPlay. Not even sure how you would do CarPlay.. a small pop-up window? It couldn’t take over the whole nav or you lose Energy display and a host of other good stuff.

Reason077 6y ago
CarPlay would work quite well on the Tesla UI. On the S/X display it would appear in landscape form, taking up half the screen just like other "apps". On the 3/Y it would use the right 2/3rds of the screen just like other "apps". They won't do it though, because as you say Tesla does most stuff just as well, if not better, on their native UI. And they want to keep people in their ecosystem. The main advantages of CarPlay on Tesla would be: 1) ability to install 3rd party apps, and 2) Much better voice support. But both of these are things that Tesla could implement/improve in their own software.
ed312 6y ago
CarPlay's UI is far better than any manufacturer I've seen so far. Using the same UI/UX as your smart phone is way more intuitive - and it'll keep pace with OS updates. I wouldn't buy a car _without_ CarPlay at this point.
- brianwawok 6y ago
  That is true for legacy, but for me not true for the Tesla UI. I quite enjoyed CarPlay in my Honda, it solved a huge hole. But I really don't find that same hole. The only apps I really used was maps, and podcast app. I have both in the tesla info-tainment section. Would be cool if they opened the market for third party apps, could be handy for some stuff... perhaps someday?
kasey_junk 6y ago
New Subaru’s have the full iPad dash like Tesla’s and integrate CarPlay just fine. It’s a widget in a bigger ui.
- brianwawok 6y ago
  So you would do it in the background where the map currently is? And the AC controls pull up over it? I guess no reason that couldn't work. It wouldn't not anything about battery health, and it would require a cable which most people don't use, but it could work.