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I always considered custom ringtone stores a gross abuse of the customer. MIDI existed YEARS earlier, so did MP3 and MOD. There's absolutely no reason why I sho

I always considered custom ringtone stores a gross abuse of the customer. MIDI existed YEARS earlier, so did MP3 and MOD. There's absolutely no reason why I shouldn't have been able to load my own on the phone and just play it. Some phones had this, most didn't.

josteink 6y ago
iPhones still don’t. You’re not allowed to make your own based on music-files or samples you have. Instead you have to buy custom ringtones in the iStore, if whatever you had considered to use is even available to buy (most often it is not). It’s just amazingly stupid, and in 2020 there’s literally no excuse for such a software shortcoming.
- bfuclusion 6y ago
  Ouch. There is _no_ excuse for that. With an a13 you should be able to use 5.1 surround as your ring tone if you want.
- asutekku 6y ago
  That's false. Granted it's not as simple as just choosing a song from your library, but it's certainly possible: https://www.tomsguide.com/us/how-to-make-ringtones-iphone,review-6526.html https://www.tomsguide.com/us/how-to-make-ringtones-iphone,re...
- evgen 6y ago
  This is incorrect. It is fairly trivial to create a ringtone of up to thirty seconds from any track you have in iTunes and push it to your phone. I do this frequently and it took me less than ten seconds to find instructions for how to do so via google.
  - oarsinsync 6y ago
    > It is fairly trivial to <x> in iTunes I’m not sure that statement is ever true for any value of <x>, as any task in iTunes is non trivial given what a painful experience using iTunes is. That said, I can confirm the rest of the point, having made custom ringtones and pushed them to my iPhone on a few (painful) occasions.
  - josteink 6y ago
    > This is incorrect. It is fairly trivial to create a ringtone of up to thirty seconds from any track you have in iTunes It never occurred to me that iTunes should be required for anything, seeing as I haven’t used that piece of software for 10+ years. I suspect that applies to most iPhone owners these days as well. As such this is trivial in the same way finding the news about the interstellar highway in “Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy” is trivial. That is, not at all. And I have such traumatic memories about iTunes with it randomly wiping my iPhone several times a month 10 years back, there’s no fucking way I’m ever going to use that software again. This needs to be solvable on the iPhone itself.
  - flak48 6y ago
    Compared to just opening 'Ringtone' in settings and just choosing any file I want, I would hardly describe having to Google for 10 seconds and then having to go to iTunes (on a different device?) to push a ringtone, as trivial or convenient.
  - shp0ngle 6y ago
    iTunes is now name Music on macOS, btw.
    - evgen 6y ago
      Since using iTunes/Music for this is apparently more than some are willing to put up with I did a bit more research and on a Mac it is even easier than what I suggested at first. Step 1: create an aac-encoded file with the .m4r extension to its name Step 2: connect phone to Mac and drag and drop .m4r file on to iPhone on desktop Step 3: there is no step 3 For those who want to do this without needing a Mac or PC there are apps that will do the job as well.
      - KONAir 6y ago
        Just downloading the song and selecting it in a list makes it feels like a chore on an Android unlike a multi platform/app adventure/experience with an iPhone.
    - easton 6y ago
      But Finder now has the syncing component for the iPhone, the Music app is only for playback and library management.
      - shp0ngle 6y ago
        Oh, OK. I know macOS Store subscription management is, hilariously enough, still just in Music app. (I wanted to cancel MS Office subscription - for Mac! not for iPhone! - and I needed to do that in Music app.)
stevekemp 6y ago
I remember that I decided to pay for a data-cable, of some kind (my memory is a little hazy), rather than paying to download/install ring-tones. For years my ringtone was the sound of the TARDIS taking off.
- pbhjpbhj 6y ago
  My Ericsson "candybar" phone had a built in program you could compose ringtones on, so I spent an hour typing in Teenage Dirtbag from sheet music, the UI was painful. If I'd been wealthier I would understand buying a ringtone. But when phones could do mp3 ... AxelF's Crazy Frog, from 2005, was peak ringtone in the UK to my recollection.
  - sasaf5 6y ago
    I managed to input the intro song of "The Good the Bad and the Ugly", and my phone ring would amuse many, especially the older.
agumonkey 6y ago
Mainstream markets are ~stupid. There's no reason people need to go to a mechanic to fix most of their issues.. it's a propped up paid convenience.
- DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
  After assisting two friends with doing their own car oil change I vowed never to do it myself. That’s not “convenience” - that’s common-sense.
  - agumonkey 6y ago
    To be fair, convenience is very contextual/relative. I, even with technical knowledge and craving to save money and do things on my own .. have moments where I just want someone to deal with it. I believe most people become like that.

josteink 6y ago

iPhones still don’t. You’re not allowed to make your own based on music-files or samples you have. Instead you have to buy custom ringtones in the iStore, if whatever you had considered to use is even available to buy (most often it is not). It’s just amazingly stupid, and in 2020 there’s literally no excuse for such a software shortcoming.

bfuclusion 6y ago
Ouch. There is _no_ excuse for that. With an a13 you should be able to use 5.1 surround as your ring tone if you want.
asutekku 6y ago
That's false. Granted it's not as simple as just choosing a song from your library, but it's certainly possible: https://www.tomsguide.com/us/how-to-make-ringtones-iphone,review-6526.html https://www.tomsguide.com/us/how-to-make-ringtones-iphone,re...
evgen 6y ago
This is incorrect. It is fairly trivial to create a ringtone of up to thirty seconds from any track you have in iTunes and push it to your phone. I do this frequently and it took me less than ten seconds to find instructions for how to do so via google.
- oarsinsync 6y ago
  > It is fairly trivial to <x> in iTunes I’m not sure that statement is ever true for any value of <x>, as any task in iTunes is non trivial given what a painful experience using iTunes is. That said, I can confirm the rest of the point, having made custom ringtones and pushed them to my iPhone on a few (painful) occasions.
- josteink 6y ago
  > This is incorrect. It is fairly trivial to create a ringtone of up to thirty seconds from any track you have in iTunes It never occurred to me that iTunes should be required for anything, seeing as I haven’t used that piece of software for 10+ years. I suspect that applies to most iPhone owners these days as well. As such this is trivial in the same way finding the news about the interstellar highway in “Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy” is trivial. That is, not at all. And I have such traumatic memories about iTunes with it randomly wiping my iPhone several times a month 10 years back, there’s no fucking way I’m ever going to use that software again. This needs to be solvable on the iPhone itself.
- flak48 6y ago
  Compared to just opening 'Ringtone' in settings and just choosing any file I want, I would hardly describe having to Google for 10 seconds and then having to go to iTunes (on a different device?) to push a ringtone, as trivial or convenient.
- shp0ngle 6y ago
  iTunes is now name Music on macOS, btw.
  - evgen 6y ago
    Since using iTunes/Music for this is apparently more than some are willing to put up with I did a bit more research and on a Mac it is even easier than what I suggested at first. Step 1: create an aac-encoded file with the .m4r extension to its name Step 2: connect phone to Mac and drag and drop .m4r file on to iPhone on desktop Step 3: there is no step 3 For those who want to do this without needing a Mac or PC there are apps that will do the job as well.
    - KONAir 6y ago
      Just downloading the song and selecting it in a list makes it feels like a chore on an Android unlike a multi platform/app adventure/experience with an iPhone.
  - easton 6y ago
    But Finder now has the syncing component for the iPhone, the Music app is only for playback and library management.
    - shp0ngle 6y ago
      Oh, OK. I know macOS Store subscription management is, hilariously enough, still just in Music app. (I wanted to cancel MS Office subscription - for Mac! not for iPhone! - and I needed to do that in Music app.)

stevekemp 6y ago

I remember that I decided to pay for a data-cable, of some kind (my memory is a little hazy), rather than paying to download/install ring-tones. For years my ringtone was the sound of the TARDIS taking off.

pbhjpbhj 6y ago
My Ericsson "candybar" phone had a built in program you could compose ringtones on, so I spent an hour typing in Teenage Dirtbag from sheet music, the UI was painful. If I'd been wealthier I would understand buying a ringtone. But when phones could do mp3 ... AxelF's Crazy Frog, from 2005, was peak ringtone in the UK to my recollection.
- sasaf5 6y ago
  I managed to input the intro song of "The Good the Bad and the Ugly", and my phone ring would amuse many, especially the older.

agumonkey 6y ago

Mainstream markets are ~stupid. There's no reason people need to go to a mechanic to fix most of their issues.. it's a propped up paid convenience.

DaiPlusPlus 6y ago
After assisting two friends with doing their own car oil change I vowed never to do it myself. That’s not “convenience” - that’s common-sense.
- agumonkey 6y ago
  To be fair, convenience is very contextual/relative. I, even with technical knowledge and craving to save money and do things on my own .. have moments where I just want someone to deal with it. I believe most people become like that.