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”more than 1 million Muslim Uighurs have been imprisoned, the largest internment of an ethnic-religious minority since the fall of the Third Reich." There are

by lehi 6y ago

”more than 1 million Muslim Uighurs have been imprisoned, the largest internment of an ethnic-religious minority since the fall of the Third Reich." There are 1.8 million Palestinians in Gaza.

Jon_Lowtek 6y ago
There are 8 million Uighurs in Xinjiang
pc86 6y ago
Is the whataboutism necessary? What does Gaza have to do with China?
- mx24 6y ago
  Did you actually read the quote? It said the largest internment of a religious minority since the third reich. OP was just pointing out that Palestinians are also imprisoned and in fact are a larger group.
  - true_religion 6y ago
    Let us presuppose that Palestine is a country. Having a small territory, angry neighbors and a blockade at your border doesn’t make you a prisoner. It simply means that you are at war and losing, or have been conquered and are now occupied territory until you submit to your new overlords. To become prisoners, one would have to consider Palestinians to not be members of a separate country to Israel, but rather 2nd class citizens forced into a sort of apartheid.
  - Supermancho 6y ago
    So the takeaway is that the poster has to be a renowed (within this thread) expert or what, the ostensible point is lost? The derail (whataboutism) is not constructive. The Palestinian/Israeli dispute/occupation is not in the same realm as Chinas historic actions.
  - pc86 6y ago
    Yes I read the quote, but my understanding of the Palestinians in Gaza is based on reality and not ideology. Gaza is a separate territority. The Palestinians there are more of less free to leave, especially if they want to go somewhere other than Israel. The plight of an impoverished people held hostage by a terrorist government does not a concentration camp make. The Chinese government is literally putting Uighurs in box cars and shipping them to camps.
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nnutter 6y ago
Seems to hinge on the definition/degree of imprisonment. From what I have read they aren't really in the same ballpark. What's going on in Gaza does seem unethical. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Human_rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Human_rights

by lehi 6y ago

”more than 1 million Muslim Uighurs have been imprisoned, the largest internment of an ethnic-religious minority since the fall of the Third Reich." There are 1.8 million Palestinians in Gaza.

Jon_Lowtek 6y ago

There are 8 million Uighurs in Xinjiang

pc86 6y ago

Is the whataboutism necessary? What does Gaza have to do with China?

mx24 6y ago
Did you actually read the quote? It said the largest internment of a religious minority since the third reich. OP was just pointing out that Palestinians are also imprisoned and in fact are a larger group.
- true_religion 6y ago
  Let us presuppose that Palestine is a country. Having a small territory, angry neighbors and a blockade at your border doesn’t make you a prisoner. It simply means that you are at war and losing, or have been conquered and are now occupied territory until you submit to your new overlords. To become prisoners, one would have to consider Palestinians to not be members of a separate country to Israel, but rather 2nd class citizens forced into a sort of apartheid.
- Supermancho 6y ago
  So the takeaway is that the poster has to be a renowed (within this thread) expert or what, the ostensible point is lost? The derail (whataboutism) is not constructive. The Palestinian/Israeli dispute/occupation is not in the same realm as Chinas historic actions.
- pc86 6y ago
  Yes I read the quote, but my understanding of the Palestinians in Gaza is based on reality and not ideology. Gaza is a separate territority. The Palestinians there are more of less free to leave, especially if they want to go somewhere other than Israel. The plight of an impoverished people held hostage by a terrorist government does not a concentration camp make. The Chinese government is literally putting Uighurs in box cars and shipping them to camps.
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nnutter 6y ago

Seems to hinge on the definition/degree of imprisonment. From what I have read they aren't really in the same ballpark. What's going on in Gaza does seem unethical. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Human_rights https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang#Human_rights