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I'm originally from Turkey, and that's also the case with Erdoğan. I mean, they wouldn't be dictators if everyone agreed with them, no? The big problem arising

I'm originally from Turkey, and that's also the case with Erdoğan. I mean, they wouldn't be dictators if everyone agreed with them, no? The big problem arising from the stark polarization is that there's no uncontaminated news sources anymore. Many argue that news should be political anyway but I really miss reading stuff that doesn't fit 100 percent to a single agenda.

gavribirnbaum 6y ago
Hold on, Bolsonaro is not a dictator. Federalism even recently screwed him over. He didn't act on COVID but individual states imposed their own measures and thankfully countered his opinion.
- lkrubner 6y ago
  That's like saying Mussolini was not a dictator in 1922, because there were still so many factions competing against him in Italian politics. Possibly true, but it's also clear what direction he was heading. By 1925 he had largely consolidated his power.
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  - gavribirnbaum 6y ago
    Well I'm also super concerned that he has expressed dictatorial aspirations. But as of right now the constitution holds.
    - iandanforth 6y ago
      "Super concerned?" The guy wanted to celebrate the coup that started the last dictatorship. Stop splitting hairs. http://www.iconnectblog.com/2019/04/bolsonaros-unconstitutional-support-for-the-brazilian-civil-military-dictatorship-of-1964-1985/ http://www.iconnectblog.com/2019/04/bolsonaros-unconstitutio... Note: Trump's call for postponing the election is exactly the same thing. Evidence they have no interest in constitutional democracy and will, at the earliest possible moment, impose total control on the country.
      - gavribirnbaum 6y ago
        Read what I said. I said I'm super concerned about it :D
prox 6y ago
Polarization is exactly that, remove all gradients. Fascists like to make out everything is black-white. “Only siths deal in absolutes”
- wearsshoes 6y ago
  I’ve always thought that quote itself was curiously absolute. ‘Only’, Yoda?
  - monocasa 6y ago
    That whole movie is about how the Jedi completely lost their way from millennia of stagnation to the point that they couldn't recognize the sith in their midsts anymore, and how their own well meaning influence contributed to their own downfall.
    - nradov 6y ago
      The Jedi were a death cult of religious fanatics who coerced child soldiers into fighting their wars of conquest.
      - rhizome 6y ago
        Time for a Star Wars supercut with The Jedi Theme and Imperial March flipped to the other sides.
  - famouslastwords 6y ago
    >I’ve always thought that quote itself was curiously absolute. ‘Only’, Yoda? “Do. Or do not. There is no try.” I always took it as Yoda unwittingly revealing himself as a Sith Lord. I mean, how much do we really know about this little fella's shady past? :D
im3w1l 6y ago
> I mean, they wouldn't be dictators if everyone agreed with them, no? A dictator's enemies are deplatformed and powerless. They are certainly not allowed to sit in top courts.

gavribirnbaum 6y ago

Hold on, Bolsonaro is not a dictator. Federalism even recently screwed him over. He didn't act on COVID but individual states imposed their own measures and thankfully countered his opinion.

lkrubner 6y ago
That's like saying Mussolini was not a dictator in 1922, because there were still so many factions competing against him in Italian politics. Possibly true, but it's also clear what direction he was heading. By 1925 he had largely consolidated his power.
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- gavribirnbaum 6y ago
  Well I'm also super concerned that he has expressed dictatorial aspirations. But as of right now the constitution holds.
  - iandanforth 6y ago
    "Super concerned?" The guy wanted to celebrate the coup that started the last dictatorship. Stop splitting hairs. http://www.iconnectblog.com/2019/04/bolsonaros-unconstitutional-support-for-the-brazilian-civil-military-dictatorship-of-1964-1985/ http://www.iconnectblog.com/2019/04/bolsonaros-unconstitutio... Note: Trump's call for postponing the election is exactly the same thing. Evidence they have no interest in constitutional democracy and will, at the earliest possible moment, impose total control on the country.
    - gavribirnbaum 6y ago
      Read what I said. I said I'm super concerned about it :D

prox 6y ago

Polarization is exactly that, remove all gradients. Fascists like to make out everything is black-white. “Only siths deal in absolutes”

wearsshoes 6y ago
I’ve always thought that quote itself was curiously absolute. ‘Only’, Yoda?
- monocasa 6y ago
  That whole movie is about how the Jedi completely lost their way from millennia of stagnation to the point that they couldn't recognize the sith in their midsts anymore, and how their own well meaning influence contributed to their own downfall.
  - nradov 6y ago
    The Jedi were a death cult of religious fanatics who coerced child soldiers into fighting their wars of conquest.
    - rhizome 6y ago
      Time for a Star Wars supercut with The Jedi Theme and Imperial March flipped to the other sides.
- famouslastwords 6y ago
  >I’ve always thought that quote itself was curiously absolute. ‘Only’, Yoda? “Do. Or do not. There is no try.” I always took it as Yoda unwittingly revealing himself as a Sith Lord. I mean, how much do we really know about this little fella's shady past? :D

im3w1l 6y ago

> I mean, they wouldn't be dictators if everyone agreed with them, no? A dictator's enemies are deplatformed and powerless. They are certainly not allowed to sit in top courts.