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Would be funny if the combined resources of three countries end up creating a strong YouTube competitor. The world needs a YouTube competitor sooner than later
by Shorel 6y ago
Would be funny if the combined resources of three countries end up creating a strong YouTube competitor.
The world needs a YouTube competitor sooner than later.
- Abishek_Muthian 6y agoCreating a competitor is simple enough, making the video from that platform appear above a video from the YouTube on the Google search is what would determine its fate. Then again, if anyone can make Google accountable it's EU.
- phoe-krk 6y agoIf the video that is being searched for is removed from YouTube, then there is no YouTube page that could be above the competitor's page.
- kube-system 6y agoI would assume you'd need to rank well at more than just Danish music to compete with YouTube in general.
- phoe-krk 6y agoAnd this, in turn, forms ground for another lawsuit...
- kthartic 6y agoI think most of the time when I'm searching for a video, my starting point is on YouTube itself, not Google. So in the case of a competitor, the site itself would be my search engine. Your point is still valid though.
- Abishek_Muthian 6y agoFair point, but Google displays videos at the top of the search results even when you are not searching for videos explicitly and those videos are from YouTube. There are enough stats to say, a layman would click a video over an article to read.
- dathinab 6y agoThrough in my experience this videos are rarely what I'm looking for.
- ck425 6y agoTbh even when I search on Google I normally avoid non YouTube links. Other than Vimeo I find they either don't work or have 30s ads
- cblades 6y agoGoogle will display videos from other sources both at the top of the web search and in the videos search.
- hiccuphippo 6y agoWhat competitors are out there already? If the problem is popularity I'll contribute by searching there first, then YouTube.
- toastal 6y agoPeerTube exists in the Fediverse sphere. There's Nebula from several content creators on YouTube. I don't know how well your random search would go on either though.
- umanwizard 6y agoDailyMotion is the biggest one I can think of.
- ratww 6y agoNot exactly competitors, but today I mostly use Nebula and CuriosityStream instead of Youtube when I want long-form bedtime videos. Both are paid, unfortunately, but for $20 a year I think it's more than worth it.
- scriptkiddy 6y agoAs far as I understand, Nebula is also co-owned by content creators themselves. Also, they see direct revenue from subscriptions.
- ratww 6y agoI had no idea! That makes me happy, as I want to support them.
- noxer 6y agocinnamon.video Obviously not a competitor at it current non existing market share but they obviously are after youtube creators and have a different monetization concept that YT.
- User23 6y agoIt's interesting to watch how the American big tech companies tread much more lightly with their deplatforming and results manipulation with respect to EU entities. They know the forum isn't a favorable one. This is easily seen by doing Google searches for prominent US/Canada based and EU based extremist organizations and reviewing the results.
- yegle 6y agoGoogle search does have a Videos tab showing video search results. I just did a search for "ASCII table" and there are 4 videos not on YouTube in the top 10 videos (2 of them on a website called "ASCII table", one on "science buddies", one on reddit). (In fact this is why I don't like to use this tab: the video might be on a random website and the video might be somewhere down the page, while the website is not optimized on mobile.) Disclaimer: I am a Google employee but not working on YouTube or search.
- bzb3 6y agoI feel the way you do, I never use that tab because often the videos shown there are hosted on shitty websites. I wish it was restricted to YouTube so I didn't have to go to YouTube to search YouTube.
- t_von_doom 6y agoOn Chrome you can directly search YouTube from the searchbar by tabbing after typing "YouTube"
- boogies 6y agoWith DuckDuckGo or Searx you can search YT with !yt <search term>
- greggman3 6y agoYou can limit a search to any domain or even subdomain site:youtube.com thing you want to search for
- ganfortran 6y agoIf you use Google video search (from the search engine itself) often enough, you will many even majority of the times, the top N results are most likely not from Youtube, even though that is what I want. No creating a competitor isn't easy. Profitable video hosting is trade secret still, and even with Google's technology and scale it becomes barely sustainable.
- blocked_again 6y agoThere are plenty of YouTube competetors. TikTok, Instagram, Dailymotion, Vimeo, Facebook Videos, etc.
- oblio 6y agoOnly Dailymotion and Vimeo can be considered competitors, for the rest you have to be logged in to browse anything. You can throw YouTube links at everyone and everything, almost no one blocks it (and those that do, backtrack quickly).
- readarticle 6y agoI can throw any of those three service’s videos at you? https://www.tiktok.com/@oakleythegoldenpuppy/video/6847430059674881285 https://www.tiktok.com/@oakleythegoldenpuppy/video/684743005... https://www.instagram.com/p/CDMXsDQlINA/?hl=en https://www.instagram.com/p/CDMXsDQlINA/?hl=en https://m.facebook.com/WoofWoofTV/videos/2348730758738033/ https://m.facebook.com/WoofWoofTV/videos/2348730758738033/ And while Instagram and Facebook definitely require you to sign in almost the second you leave a video link, it looks like you’re free to browse Tiktok to your heart’s content while signed out (excluding comments). https://www.tiktok.com/trending?lang=en https://www.tiktok.com/trending?lang=en
- rydre 6y agoYouTube will be difficult to replicate. The long tail channel are too many and useful.
- enaaem 6y agoRegarding online video entertainment, there are plenty of competitors like Twitch, Netflix and Pornhub. Each are a different concept and are optimised for the type of entertainment they bring. I do not think there is room for a competitor that is exactly like Youtube, but not Youtube. You have to do something different.
- msh 6y agoYoutube is more than music. I use youtube all the time, but never to listen to music.
- bgdam 6y agoThe problem is not really a technical issue. It might be expensive, but it's not rocket science to create a Youtube competitor. The problem is that in order to build a 'viable' Youtube competitor, you need to get content creators to post on your site, instead of Youtube. To do that, you need to be able to guarantee them ad income, and to do that you need advertisers, and to get them you need a large number of viewers, to get whom you need content creators posting on your site. Whoever manages to find a way to solve this chicken and egg problem will end up creating the first viable Youtube competitor.
- hannob 6y agoThat's not even the biggest problem. The biggest problem is being able to handle the legal minefield that Copyright law (in all its international variations) is for a video plattform.
- nradov 6y agoIn general they need be able to flag all illegal content. Copyright violations are just one type of illegal content.
- Mindwipe 6y ago> The biggest problem is being able to handle the legal minefield that Copyright law (in all its international variations) is for a video plattform. That's not that big a problem tbh. It's understood and there's a lot of solutions. The bigger issue is that you'll have to get music licenses if you want to actually run a service in the long run, and people's faces tend to drop when they find out they simply can't license music internationally, and you have to approach multiple different bodies in literally every individual country you operate in. Operating an international video service probably requires you to sign 750-ish collective rights agreements, and that is painfully expensive to even negotiate. Some of these bodies are also much more rational than others on pricing.
- justaguyhere 6y agoI dunno, it feels like an impossible task to create a youtube competitor. Even harder than creating Google's search engine competitor. The storage and bandwidth costs are so big that it can deter most rich companies except maybe a few like Apple or Amazon. Maybe if nation states can work together, they can take on Google. But then, when have we ever heard of nation states working together on the internet taking on tech giants for the benefit of their citizens? Didn't Europe try it with the search engine and fail miserably?
- pvaldes 6y agoJamendo has been around for a lot of years
- utopcell 6y agoWhat's wrong with Vimeo ?
- anticensor 6y agoUploader pays vs advertiser supported. Though, both have viewer-paid premium content too.
- rasz 6y ago~$1K per terabyte