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Doesn't surprise me but the study also seems to be just trying to measure academic achievement. I mean sure, I'm incredibly skeptical of "baby Mozart" approach
by odomojuli 6y ago
Doesn't surprise me but the study also seems to be just trying to measure academic achievement.
I mean sure, I'm incredibly skeptical of "baby Mozart" approaches to music. Certainly starting young and practicing early goes a long way towards being successful in anything. Discipline in any field builds discipline towards others.
We can go on and on about the mathematical nature of music but I would argue it's easier for people to do it by not thinking about those things and being in touch with how it feels.
I'm kind of bothered that anything to do with IQ these days is pursued by researchers or is given a fair shake by our dear readers at Hacker News.
Stop trying to max your kids stats. It's incredibly dehumanizing. I get that we all want children to have the best opportunities, but maybe it'd be a more equitable situation if we stopped reducing ourselves to a numbers game.
Maybe they'll be smarter when they learn to do things they feel passionate about and not conditioned to perform like a trained monkey. We already have enough performative identity for careerism in high school kids. Maybe intelligence and success comes from knowing yourself, and not from being told to do things because you get points?
Sorry parents! An essential part of culture and discipline of art and pleasure might not be inherently advantageous to your child's ability to fill out tests so while you're at it make sure they never do anything for themselves beyond the sole purpose of getting in somewhere just so they can realize they don't know who they are!
Edit: Also the use of "put down the banjo". Let's talk about that. This is a study done in Japan and the UK. Are they even playing the banjo? Nothing wrong with the banjo, banjo's great. But specifically going with the banjo as their title and image lends itself to a specific tone for some readers. Not exactly what some people would consider "intellectual" music for vague reasons in class and race perhaps. I'm detecting a bias here against the "utility" of folk music. I wish they'd link the actual paper. Did the researchers give a bunch of banjos as part of a controlled study? I'm so sure a lot of well-to-do parents in Tokyo and London are feeling burned by having to keep up with the competitive nature among children in banjo culture.
- mywittyname 6y ago>Stop trying to max your kids stats. It's incredibly dehumanizing. I get that we all want children to have the best opportunities, but maybe it'd be a more equitable situation if we stopped reducing ourselves to a numbers game. Sadly, in many respects, the only way to have a child who is at the top echelons is to treat them like a character in a lifelong RPG who needs to be constantly trained and optimized for such a purpose. It's not just sports either. Political & business dynasties exhibit this behavior, where a child's entire life is mapped out from years 0 to 22.
- sevensor 6y agoExactly. My kid is playing Tchaikovski on the piano at this very moment. (Well, a for-beginners version of one of his themes, but still.) She's happy playing it, I'm happy hearing it. If nobody gets any smarter, who cares? We both just got happier. Ars gratia artis.
- CarbyAu 6y agoYeah, banjos have high association with hillbilly which in turn doesn't exactly invoke high intellectualism. As a person who learned some basic music growing up, I like to think I appreciate music more than I would otherwise. That to me is the life win. And I am utterly awed by a banjo player in full rock out mode! I mean, Deliverance movie is one of the most well known examples that popularised the stereotypes mentioned above. It practically defined for most people the "da-da-dingdang-dingdang-dingdang-dung" series of notes people think of with a banjo. But even in this most contrived example, damn if it doesn't get going full amazeballs after 2:30. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsC4kf6x_Q0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsC4kf6x_Q0 A great banjo player is a heck of a thing.