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>I do think people radically underestimate the unforeseen consequences of a free guaranteed income, even if it was low. But for every you, there's a me. I get
by tw04 6y ago
>I do think people radically underestimate the unforeseen consequences of a free guaranteed income, even if it was low.
But for every you, there's a me. I get satisfaction out of working. I had a job in college where I completed all of my work in the first week and did absolutely nothing for the next 6 months and I was MISERABLE. I needed a task to complete, a job to finish, to feel productive.
Furthermore I like having things - whether that be a boat, or a nice car or insert whatever. And that's not some "you've just succumbed to the capitalist monsters" - I buy things that I get enjoyment out of, I don't get enjoyment out of buying things. Quite frankly I feel disgusting anytime I buy something, so if it isn't something I enjoy I have borderline permanent remorse. The car I bought at 16 still hits a nerve because it was a pile of garbage I paid too much for.
I completely understand and respect and quite frankly envy people that don't want things, don't need to work to feel "complete" and can get by doing nothing all day. And with all of that said, the fact there's a you, and a me, tells me there's a very good chance UBI can work. People that don't care about having nice things can do fuck-all and get enough to survive, and people who want more can work until they have it.
- swimfar 6y ago"But for every you, there's a me" Everyone agrees that there will be people who will want to work, and people who won't. The question is what is the ratio, and is it enough. No one can predict this with a high level of certainty. We all just have "a feeling", which coincidentally happens to align perfectly with whether or not we believe in UBI.
- tw04 6y agoSorry, I have a REALLY tough time believing automation can't replace a minimum of 50% of the current human workforce - we just haven't done it because there are large swaths of population willing to work for slave wages. Whether you agree with UBI or not you better have a solution for how those people are going to survive when they are eventually replaced by a machine. The alternative will be endless war and famine or genocide.