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I notice the "liberal" link has "leftist" in the URL. Is YouTube so basic, it cannot distinguish the two?

by Svip 6y ago

CravingLogic 6y ago
I'd bet that more than 95% of the US population would equate those two terms.
tonyedgecombe 6y ago
We might as well stop using the term liberal, it means so many things to different people now.
- guerrilla 6y ago
  We might as well stop using the term logic, it means so many things to different people now. Liberal is well defined in virtually all models of classification used in political science and political philosophy, which a project such as this should probably defer to.
  - hombre_fatal 6y ago
    People absolutely do not agree on what "a liberal" would believe in. Hell, to some people, it's nothing more than a slur. Also, the reductive "then we should toss out the word 'logic' then!" kinda comes off as a tantrum, to me. I don't really get the point. Why not focus and possibly disagree with the suggestion that nobody agrees on what "a liberal" means? If you try to switch the argument to your analogy, then you're going to spend more time defending and explaining your (nonsensical) analogy than you would just explaining where you disagree. For example, you'd have to start explaining why you think people disagree about the word "logic", something I've never encountered. Not a very effective strategy.
    - guerrilla 6y ago
      People absolutely do not agree on what "logic" is. Just ask people. Hell, to some people, it's nothing more than "I'm right." >I don't really get the point. The point is that it doesn't matter if people in general don't know that the word means, which is why I didn't refer to "people" but classification systems designed by and for people trying to understand political ideologies and orientations. The term "liberal" has definite specific meanings that correspond relatively narrowly. > something I've never encountered. Then you've never asked regular people what logic is or haven't noticed that their answers differ widely and hardly correspond to what philosophers and mathematicians mean. Nevertheless, the laity's ignorance does not dilute the meaning of the term.

I notice the "liberal" link has "leftist" in the URL. Is YouTube so basic, it cannot distinguish the two?

by Svip 6y ago

I notice the "liberal" link has "leftist" in the URL. Is YouTube so basic, it cannot distinguish the two?

CravingLogic 6y ago

I'd bet that more than 95% of the US population would equate those two terms.

tonyedgecombe 6y ago

We might as well stop using the term liberal, it means so many things to different people now.

guerrilla 6y ago
We might as well stop using the term logic, it means so many things to different people now. Liberal is well defined in virtually all models of classification used in political science and political philosophy, which a project such as this should probably defer to.
- hombre_fatal 6y ago
  People absolutely do not agree on what "a liberal" would believe in. Hell, to some people, it's nothing more than a slur. Also, the reductive "then we should toss out the word 'logic' then!" kinda comes off as a tantrum, to me. I don't really get the point. Why not focus and possibly disagree with the suggestion that nobody agrees on what "a liberal" means? If you try to switch the argument to your analogy, then you're going to spend more time defending and explaining your (nonsensical) analogy than you would just explaining where you disagree. For example, you'd have to start explaining why you think people disagree about the word "logic", something I've never encountered. Not a very effective strategy.
  - guerrilla 6y ago
    People absolutely do not agree on what "logic" is. Just ask people. Hell, to some people, it's nothing more than "I'm right." >I don't really get the point. The point is that it doesn't matter if people in general don't know that the word means, which is why I didn't refer to "people" but classification systems designed by and for people trying to understand political ideologies and orientations. The term "liberal" has definite specific meanings that correspond relatively narrowly. > something I've never encountered. Then you've never asked regular people what logic is or haven't noticed that their answers differ widely and hardly correspond to what philosophers and mathematicians mean. Nevertheless, the laity's ignorance does not dilute the meaning of the term.