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My reckless prediction: When Apple releases their first Apple Silicon Macs at the end of the year, one of them will be a rack-mount server.
by dhosek 6y ago
My reckless prediction: When Apple releases their first Apple Silicon Macs at the end of the year, one of them will be a rack-mount server.
- tyingq 6y agoIt's been a while since they had one. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xserve https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xserve
- dhosek 6y agoThe Xserve was never really competitive in price or performance. An Arm based Macserve has the potential to offer higher performance per watt than x86-based offerings which might make it make more sense in the datacenter than the Xserve ever did.
- dhosek 6y agoJust on pure aesthetics, I had kind of wanted an Xserve as a recording computer to put in the rack next to all the synth modules. Of course, it never made financial sense to do so.
- Joeri 6y agoXserves were really loud. I doubt you'd want it anywhere near an audio setup, unless it was in a separate room. You can hear it at 6:30 in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdMKuHVnjik https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdMKuHVnjik
- simonebrunozzi 6y agoHappy to bet against this.
- kylec 6y agoThe Mac Pro is rack mountable, and I would expect it to transition to ARM at some point
- tyingq 6y agoLacking things like dual power supplies and out of band management, that probably isn't the context the GP meant.
- easton 6y agoThis probably isn't a game changer for you, but Apple mentioned at WWDC that Lights Out Management is coming to Mac Pros in the next release of macOS. You need a Mac Mini somewhere on the network to manage commands from the MDM to the turned off Mac Pro, so I don't know what happens if that Mac Mini is turned off, but it's a move in the right direction I guess. (I suppose it's because they don't want network to be up before the firmware on the target Macs is validated, but I'm not sure). https://developer.apple.com/documentation/devicemanagement/lightsoutmanagementlom https://developer.apple.com/documentation/devicemanagement/l...
- tyingq 6y agoIf the Mac mini is capable of managing several servers, that's not a bad idea.
- simonebrunozzi 6y agoWay too expensive to even be in the ballpark of competing with other solutions.
- fulafel 6y agoThe Xserve existed at a time when most servers were expensive and high margin. Today they are not so "ballpark of competing" would mean low margin or subsidized pricing for Apple.
- dhosek 6y agoI did say reckless.
- _ph_ 6y agoIt would be to hope, that they release some rack-mounted hardware with their ARMs. It is actually surprising that the big users of server hardware have not pushed stronger towards ARM. It would absolutely make sense for Apple to use their own Silicon for their serving infrastructure as well as selling them to any interested party, as this increases the unit count of the Apple Silicon, which drives down the cost for all Macs.
- solarkraft 6y agoWith what advantage? Performance per Watt? Probably not anything software based they currently offer.