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> Google did not yet stop progress for 10 years in multiple fields the way MS did. I beg the difference, Gmail have not changed much since I signed up 16 year:

> Google did not yet stop progress for 10 years in multiple fields the way MS did. I beg the difference, Gmail have not changed much since I signed up 16 year:ish etc They are all the same, as soon as competition goes away, this happens.

anchpop 6y ago
I'm still upset with them for killing Inbox
- harha 6y ago
  I used that as an opportunity to leave most Google services all together, the product decisions just can't be trusted from a user perspective. For most services there's a better alternative (e.g. DuckDuckGo with bangs for search, native apps whenever possible, markdown for notes and texts) - in general this was a learning process for me to distrust systems that control me more than the other way around by creating a lock-in to an ecosystem. I feel it's worth taking the time to understand systems a bit more. Once the learning is there, much of the convenience that Google offers can be replicated through good processes and automation.
- master-litty 6y ago
  Me too. I still don’t understand why it was killed.
pbhjpbhj 6y ago
But Gmail is interoperable with other mail systems and they didn't create incompatible extensions to email (AFAIAA); that's quite different to how IE6 was. If Gmail required emails themselves to be in a special format that broke other MUA and IE6 wouldn't render standards compliant emails in a way you could read. That would be analogous to what IE6 was up to.
- jcranmer 6y ago
  > If Gmail required emails themselves to be in a special format that broke other MUA and IE6 wouldn't render standards compliant emails in a way you could read. Gmail is as notorious as IE6 was for its rather poor support of HTML and CSS in email.
- simpss 6y ago
  take a look at AMP for emails... https://amp.dev/about/email/ https://amp.dev/about/email/
  - jefftk 6y ago
    amp4email is open for anyone to support, and per https://blog.amp.dev/2019/03/26/building-the-future-of-email-with-amp/ https://blog.amp.dev/2019/03/26/building-the-future-of-email... it's supported by Yahoo Mail, Mail.ru, Outlook, and Gmail. It's not comparable to IE-only features. (Disclosure: I work for Google, speaking only for myself)
  - _-___________-_ 6y ago
    Christ. If that's "the future of email", I'm going back to writing letters.

anchpop 6y ago

I'm still upset with them for killing Inbox

harha 6y ago
I used that as an opportunity to leave most Google services all together, the product decisions just can't be trusted from a user perspective. For most services there's a better alternative (e.g. DuckDuckGo with bangs for search, native apps whenever possible, markdown for notes and texts) - in general this was a learning process for me to distrust systems that control me more than the other way around by creating a lock-in to an ecosystem. I feel it's worth taking the time to understand systems a bit more. Once the learning is there, much of the convenience that Google offers can be replicated through good processes and automation.
master-litty 6y ago
Me too. I still don’t understand why it was killed.

pbhjpbhj 6y ago

But Gmail is interoperable with other mail systems and they didn't create incompatible extensions to email (AFAIAA); that's quite different to how IE6 was. If Gmail required emails themselves to be in a special format that broke other MUA and IE6 wouldn't render standards compliant emails in a way you could read. That would be analogous to what IE6 was up to.

jcranmer 6y ago
> If Gmail required emails themselves to be in a special format that broke other MUA and IE6 wouldn't render standards compliant emails in a way you could read. Gmail is as notorious as IE6 was for its rather poor support of HTML and CSS in email.
simpss 6y ago
take a look at AMP for emails... https://amp.dev/about/email/ https://amp.dev/about/email/
- jefftk 6y ago
  amp4email is open for anyone to support, and per https://blog.amp.dev/2019/03/26/building-the-future-of-email-with-amp/ https://blog.amp.dev/2019/03/26/building-the-future-of-email... it's supported by Yahoo Mail, Mail.ru, Outlook, and Gmail. It's not comparable to IE-only features. (Disclosure: I work for Google, speaking only for myself)
- _-___________-_ 6y ago
  Christ. If that's "the future of email", I'm going back to writing letters.