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Is cancel culture a real thing among comedians, as in are there real-life examples of comedians who got canceled because of edgy jokes? Lewis C.K. and got canc

by dtech 6y ago

Is cancel culture a real thing among comedians, as in are there real-life examples of comedians who got canceled because of edgy jokes? Lewis C.K. and got cancelled because of unwanted sexual acts, similar to other actors. It had nothing to with his humor or acts.

Areibman 6y ago
Lenny Bruce comes to mind [0]. Granted, he was from an era where legal restrictions on free expression were much more stringent whereas cancel culture today is more of a market phenomenon. https://www.thefire.org/first-amendment-library/special-collections/lenny-bruce-cases/ https://www.thefire.org/first-amendment-library/special-coll...
DanBC 6y ago
And it's hard to describe Louis CK as "cancelled" when he's still touring to packed audiences. https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2020/03/11/louis-ck-new-standup/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2020/03/11...
- misanthropian00 6y ago
  They cancelled him. They didn't actually kill him. He did nothing illegal so they can't put him in jail. I am sure he has enough fans who don't give a fuck that he's a wanker, but maybe there are a lot of venues that won't even let him do his show there due to fear of getting cancelled themselves. I think he said he no longer enjoys doing shows in the US due to all the hate aimed at him. Americans are still angry puritans at heart.
  - DanBC 6y ago
    > They cancelled him It's hard to describe it as being cancelled when he's still selling to big audiences.
dole 6y ago
Shane Gillis, not sure with how his career has been faring since the SNL fallout. Dennis Miller somewhat but he's still getting work. I'm not sure whether Michael Richards fits.
raxxorrax 6y ago
Canceling the wrong humor and or statements is a theme in autocratic behavior and I think if you cannot see how media scraps content that could even remotely seen as sexist/racist/controversial, you have to be willfully blind to it. People doing it aren't progressives, they are just the next generation of conservatives. The article actually gives an example. What about that? I don't know what Lewis C.K. did, I thought he was on the other "side" of that argument actually.
- happytoexplain 6y ago
  The parent asked a reasonable question and you ranted about identity politics and called them willfully blind.
  - raxxorrax 6y ago
    The parent asked an example about cancellations and the article mentions one. And when I rant, I use at least 250% more vulgar language, but I would want the insinuation of being dishonest to stay.
throwaway234101 6y ago
Ask Owen Benjamin.
drewcoo 6y ago
Lenny Bruce?
misanthropian00 6y ago
You can be cancelled for any reason. Loius CK wanked in front of some girls, but it could just as easily have been due to a joke. It creates an unforgiving environment where it is not unreasonable to believe that a single unpopular joke would be enough to end your entire career. I don't really blame snowflake-millennials for this though. It's the corporations ultimately who are the ones creating this problem by caving to public pressure. They could just ignore the angry masses of morons. If comedians feel pressured not to make edgy jokes then that is a real effect. And they do feel that pressure.
- DanBC 6y ago
  > but it could just as easily have been due to a joke ...except it wasn't a joke, it was sexual misconduct. And he hasn't even been cancelled. He's still touring, selling to large crowds.
  - misanthropian00 6y ago
    He has been cancelled. He no longer has any TV shows. He can't write for TV. It killed pretty much all of his projects. So he can do standup. So what? It's the big corps that cause the cancellation effect and they don't control all the little standup venues. If Louis hasn't been cancelled then no one has which I am guessing would probably be your next argument. I have noticed a trend from the left to try to deny the reality of it which I find really strange.
    - WorldMaker 6y ago
      Most of his TV shows were cancelled before Louis CK was. The few that weren't were given to other Producers. The only real project killed when Louis CK was canceled was a movie with questionable sexual content (the title was "I Love You, Daddy", which alone leaves a lot of questions about the project even if you don't know of the contents), that especially looked bad/egregious in the light of the sexual misconduct allegations against Louis CK and caused the distributor to reevaluate the script and early reviews in that light and determine it wasn't content they wanted to distribute. (Most early reviews indicate that this was no great cultural loss.)

by dtech 6y ago

Areibman 6y ago

Lenny Bruce comes to mind [0]. Granted, he was from an era where legal restrictions on free expression were much more stringent whereas cancel culture today is more of a market phenomenon. https://www.thefire.org/first-amendment-library/special-collections/lenny-bruce-cases/ https://www.thefire.org/first-amendment-library/special-coll...

DanBC 6y ago

And it's hard to describe Louis CK as "cancelled" when he's still touring to packed audiences. https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2020/03/11/louis-ck-new-standup/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2020/03/11...

misanthropian00 6y ago
They cancelled him. They didn't actually kill him. He did nothing illegal so they can't put him in jail. I am sure he has enough fans who don't give a fuck that he's a wanker, but maybe there are a lot of venues that won't even let him do his show there due to fear of getting cancelled themselves. I think he said he no longer enjoys doing shows in the US due to all the hate aimed at him. Americans are still angry puritans at heart.
- DanBC 6y ago
  > They cancelled him It's hard to describe it as being cancelled when he's still selling to big audiences.

dole 6y ago

Shane Gillis, not sure with how his career has been faring since the SNL fallout. Dennis Miller somewhat but he's still getting work. I'm not sure whether Michael Richards fits.

raxxorrax 6y ago

Canceling the wrong humor and or statements is a theme in autocratic behavior and I think if you cannot see how media scraps content that could even remotely seen as sexist/racist/controversial, you have to be willfully blind to it. People doing it aren't progressives, they are just the next generation of conservatives. The article actually gives an example. What about that? I don't know what Lewis C.K. did, I thought he was on the other "side" of that argument actually.

happytoexplain 6y ago
The parent asked a reasonable question and you ranted about identity politics and called them willfully blind.
- raxxorrax 6y ago
  The parent asked an example about cancellations and the article mentions one. And when I rant, I use at least 250% more vulgar language, but I would want the insinuation of being dishonest to stay.

throwaway234101 6y ago

Ask Owen Benjamin.

drewcoo 6y ago

Lenny Bruce?

misanthropian00 6y ago

You can be cancelled for any reason. Loius CK wanked in front of some girls, but it could just as easily have been due to a joke. It creates an unforgiving environment where it is not unreasonable to believe that a single unpopular joke would be enough to end your entire career. I don't really blame snowflake-millennials for this though. It's the corporations ultimately who are the ones creating this problem by caving to public pressure. They could just ignore the angry masses of morons. If comedians feel pressured not to make edgy jokes then that is a real effect. And they do feel that pressure.

DanBC 6y ago
> but it could just as easily have been due to a joke ...except it wasn't a joke, it was sexual misconduct. And he hasn't even been cancelled. He's still touring, selling to large crowds.
- misanthropian00 6y ago
  He has been cancelled. He no longer has any TV shows. He can't write for TV. It killed pretty much all of his projects. So he can do standup. So what? It's the big corps that cause the cancellation effect and they don't control all the little standup venues. If Louis hasn't been cancelled then no one has which I am guessing would probably be your next argument. I have noticed a trend from the left to try to deny the reality of it which I find really strange.
  - WorldMaker 6y ago
    Most of his TV shows were cancelled before Louis CK was. The few that weren't were given to other Producers. The only real project killed when Louis CK was canceled was a movie with questionable sexual content (the title was "I Love You, Daddy", which alone leaves a lot of questions about the project even if you don't know of the contents), that especially looked bad/egregious in the light of the sexual misconduct allegations against Louis CK and caused the distributor to reevaluate the script and early reviews in that light and determine it wasn't content they wanted to distribute. (Most early reviews indicate that this was no great cultural loss.)