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Not surprised - the Zoe is just a nice little everyday car ... not trying to be too much, just get the basics right of what a nomal driver needs. I'm in the ma

Not surprised - the Zoe is just a nice little everyday car ... not trying to be too much, just get the basics right of what a nomal driver needs. I'm in the market for an EV next year and, if the competitors haven't stepped up their game, I'll get one. No way will I buy a Tesla. Extremely bored of their brand and their online cult - very excited for alternatives. You can take your 0-60 and ... :)

rcMgD2BwE72F 6y ago
Would the Zoe be your only car? Do you plan to do cross-country trips? If not, what would you consider other than a Tesla for long range trips (ignoring branding/marketing for a second)?
- TLightful 6y ago
  Ideally, yes. I live in London and 97% of my journeys would be there. An example, "normal" cross-country trip for me to, say, Bristol, is just over a 100 miles. Well within the Zoe's range. Anything crazy-further as a very one-off, and maybe I'd rent an ICE for the weekend. (edit: although someone just mentioned the 10%-80% charge time being just an hour ... fine by me!). As said, the Zoe would be on my radar if the competitors don't step up. But I've heard about quite a few alternative EV released in 2021. The Polestar 2 looks great. id.3 is fine. Hopefully Kia impress ... will be on the look out for others.
- raxxorrax 6y ago
  Family of mine drove from northern Germany to Greece (don't know where exactly) in an E-Tron last year. It was a 2 day trip, but they said it was very chill. They could recharge in about 15 minutes (to 80%?), don't know the exact range between trips, but it was considerable. Would have taken 2 days with a conventional car as well, maybe just a little bit faster. Now, for business trips in rush hours it would probably be another story.
- pi-rat 6y ago
  Either go for a fast charging car, fastest Tesla moves 1000 km in 10h (incl charging), newest E-tron manages the same in 10h20m (Teslabjørn’s tests). Or go for something super efficient, like the Kias (Kona/Ioniq). Kona does 560 km on a single charge (64 kWh) in real life tests here in Norway.
  - caf 6y ago
    Kona and Ioniq are Hyundai models.
    - pi-rat 6y ago
      Haha, thanks! I was going to write the "Koreans" or "Kia/Hyundai" but apparently failed :)
cerberusss 6y ago
I've driven the Zoe on a daily commute that's 160 km (100 mi). It's a fantastic car. I've also driven it from The Netherlands to France, 1000 km (621 mi). Then you get into a problem that the charging time from 10-80% takes a full hour, and it's necessary about 5 times for that distance. I personally still thought it was a fun trip.
- TLightful 6y ago
  That long trip is actually not bad at all ... I mean, one hour 10-80% is totally fine for me. Grab a meal, freshen up. All good. Good to hear.
  - cerberusss 6y ago
    That's with the 40 kWh version. I believe the 50 kWh version has the same charge curve, but obviously gets you farther. You can get much faster there if you charge more often and stop around 60-70%. On long trips, I take a lot of margin, which isn't necessary if you drive to somewhere you know really well (say, a second home) and which has plenty of chargers. I have to admit, I'm a bit in love with this car. So I'm perhaps overly positive.

rcMgD2BwE72F 6y ago

Would the Zoe be your only car? Do you plan to do cross-country trips? If not, what would you consider other than a Tesla for long range trips (ignoring branding/marketing for a second)?

TLightful 6y ago
Ideally, yes. I live in London and 97% of my journeys would be there. An example, "normal" cross-country trip for me to, say, Bristol, is just over a 100 miles. Well within the Zoe's range. Anything crazy-further as a very one-off, and maybe I'd rent an ICE for the weekend. (edit: although someone just mentioned the 10%-80% charge time being just an hour ... fine by me!). As said, the Zoe would be on my radar if the competitors don't step up. But I've heard about quite a few alternative EV released in 2021. The Polestar 2 looks great. id.3 is fine. Hopefully Kia impress ... will be on the look out for others.
raxxorrax 6y ago
Family of mine drove from northern Germany to Greece (don't know where exactly) in an E-Tron last year. It was a 2 day trip, but they said it was very chill. They could recharge in about 15 minutes (to 80%?), don't know the exact range between trips, but it was considerable. Would have taken 2 days with a conventional car as well, maybe just a little bit faster. Now, for business trips in rush hours it would probably be another story.
pi-rat 6y ago
Either go for a fast charging car, fastest Tesla moves 1000 km in 10h (incl charging), newest E-tron manages the same in 10h20m (Teslabjørn’s tests). Or go for something super efficient, like the Kias (Kona/Ioniq). Kona does 560 km on a single charge (64 kWh) in real life tests here in Norway.
- caf 6y ago
  Kona and Ioniq are Hyundai models.
  - pi-rat 6y ago
    Haha, thanks! I was going to write the "Koreans" or "Kia/Hyundai" but apparently failed :)

cerberusss 6y ago

I've driven the Zoe on a daily commute that's 160 km (100 mi). It's a fantastic car. I've also driven it from The Netherlands to France, 1000 km (621 mi). Then you get into a problem that the charging time from 10-80% takes a full hour, and it's necessary about 5 times for that distance. I personally still thought it was a fun trip.

TLightful 6y ago
That long trip is actually not bad at all ... I mean, one hour 10-80% is totally fine for me. Grab a meal, freshen up. All good. Good to hear.
- cerberusss 6y ago
  That's with the 40 kWh version. I believe the 50 kWh version has the same charge curve, but obviously gets you farther. You can get much faster there if you charge more often and stop around 60-70%. On long trips, I take a lot of margin, which isn't necessary if you drive to somewhere you know really well (say, a second home) and which has plenty of chargers. I have to admit, I'm a bit in love with this car. So I'm perhaps overly positive.