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Canada is similar to the US in terms of food consumption, and yet Canada has much better health care outcomes and lower health care expenditures. I'm not sayin

Canada is similar to the US in terms of food consumption, and yet Canada has much better health care outcomes and lower health care expenditures. I'm not saying food isn't a factor, I'm just wondering how big a factor it is compared to universal access to health care.

bluedino 6y ago
It’s the food. The USA has 40% obesity rate vs 15% of Canada. We just eat more here, and we eat more garbage. Funny enough, if you chopped off the fattest 5-6 states, the USA would compare more favorably.
- Aeolun 6y ago
  Anecdotally, coming to the US from Europe/Japan. The food there is ridiculously fat/large. At least as long as you want to spend less than $30/meal.
- nolangerner 6y ago
  Where are you getting your numbers? Canada is at ~29% and the US is at ~36%. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_obesity_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_obesity_r... https://ourworldindata.org/obesity https://ourworldindata.org/obesity https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/obesity-rates-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/obesity-r...
  - knubie 6y ago
    That's interesting, the CDC lists 42.4% for the US. https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html
- kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
  Or it's not the food and people have just adopted a lifestyle where all energy expenditure is minimized. That is self evident in social behavior. Your theory is just an easily trotted out bogeyman.
  - shados 6y ago
    Anecdotally, it's at least partially the food. I was a little overweight when I moved to the US, and now I'm full blown fat. My lifestyle (aside for food), didn't change. The main difference is availability and price, especially the latter. A decent lunch near my office in my home country was 20-30 bucks (converted in USD), and I made X/year. Now I make 3-4+ times X, and you can get more food than I can eat at shit like Panda Express for 6-8 bucks. So vs my income, it's almost 10 times cheaper. If it wasn't for health concerns, it no longer made sense for me to cook. So I just had delivery/takeout almost every day after I moved (switching country is stressful, so I was happy to get all the time back I could get). Then the health issues cropped up. Now I'm trying to dial it back, but its tough. I know a _lot_ of people who had similar things happened to them after they moved here, and anecdotally again, one of them moved back and started losing weight super fast, without really trying.

bluedino 6y ago

It’s the food. The USA has 40% obesity rate vs 15% of Canada. We just eat more here, and we eat more garbage. Funny enough, if you chopped off the fattest 5-6 states, the USA would compare more favorably.

Aeolun 6y ago
Anecdotally, coming to the US from Europe/Japan. The food there is ridiculously fat/large. At least as long as you want to spend less than $30/meal.
nolangerner 6y ago
Where are you getting your numbers? Canada is at ~29% and the US is at ~36%. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_obesity_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_obesity_r... https://ourworldindata.org/obesity https://ourworldindata.org/obesity https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/obesity-rates-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/obesity-r...
- knubie 6y ago
  That's interesting, the CDC lists 42.4% for the US. https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data/adult.html
kevin_thibedeau 6y ago
Or it's not the food and people have just adopted a lifestyle where all energy expenditure is minimized. That is self evident in social behavior. Your theory is just an easily trotted out bogeyman.
- shados 6y ago
  Anecdotally, it's at least partially the food. I was a little overweight when I moved to the US, and now I'm full blown fat. My lifestyle (aside for food), didn't change. The main difference is availability and price, especially the latter. A decent lunch near my office in my home country was 20-30 bucks (converted in USD), and I made X/year. Now I make 3-4+ times X, and you can get more food than I can eat at shit like Panda Express for 6-8 bucks. So vs my income, it's almost 10 times cheaper. If it wasn't for health concerns, it no longer made sense for me to cook. So I just had delivery/takeout almost every day after I moved (switching country is stressful, so I was happy to get all the time back I could get). Then the health issues cropped up. Now I'm trying to dial it back, but its tough. I know a _lot_ of people who had similar things happened to them after they moved here, and anecdotally again, one of them moved back and started losing weight super fast, without really trying.