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Yeah, I love movies about guys who commit murder, lie about it, come clean only to try to save their own ass, and leave their two kids without any parents in th

by rewind 18y ago

Yeah, I love movies about guys who commit murder, lie about it, come clean only to try to save their own ass, and leave their two kids without any parents in the process. I'll be first in line for a ticket, for sure.

mikkom 18y ago
But this guy also codes a filesystem during the process!
mrtron 18y ago
And wrote a filesystem chose by several distros as the default. He was a seriously smart guy - and thats what make the story relative. A lot of smart people have mental illness. Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -Hemmingway
- helveticaman 18y ago
  >A lot of smart people have mental illness. How can you question his sanity? Just because he does something unusual doesn't mean he's crazy. I don't question the sanity of really smart people (say, Bobby Fischer or James Watson) because I can't fathom what goes on in their minds. Sure, I'd find Hans Reiser guilty if the evidence warranted it, but accuse him of being insane? That would be arrogant.
  - mrtron 18y ago
    Mental illness does mean insanity or crazy. It could be a deep bout of depression that caused him to bury his wife. Regardless of circumstances, it is not a reasonable thing to do.
ojbyrne 18y ago
This sure made me think of the recent "Don't talk to police" thread. I'm not saying he's innocent or anything, and clearly murder is a bad thing (which sounds trite and insensitive), but it just seems like a really bad move on his part. Maybe it got sold to him as saving his own ass, but it seems like it did the opposite. Being convicted is only part of the process - there's appeals, and appeals, and more appeals. And again, apologies if I sound insensitive. I don't know any of the individuals belonged, and murders are so often in the news that it's easy to discuss them without any real emotion.
- mechanical_fish 18y ago
  Perhaps the guy really isn't an emotionless robot built entirely of ego -- and, now that his self-defense instinct has exhausted itself, his urge to stop lying, express some entirely authentic and long-suppressed remorse, and save his wife's family and his own children from a lifetime of uncertainty has finally won out. (For further insight into this aspect of the human psyche I recommend Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment.) Or, perhaps he's an emotionless robot playing the role of a remorseful human being. If so, I think it's about time. It's not as if Plan A was working out well for anyone. Requiescat in Pace
- martey 18y ago
  He is getting a second-degree conviction instead of first-degree. From the article: The maximum sentence Reiser could receive for second-degree murder is 15 years to life. Reiser had faced a term of 25 years to life under his first-degree murder conviction. Considering his sentencing hearing is in a couple of days, I think it makes logical sense.
  - ojbyrne 18y ago
    Either I skipped right over those 2 paragraphs, or it wasn't there when I read the article. It says "Updated at 20:11 PDT" Either way my point has been invalidated.
akd 18y ago
Ever tried to make an interesting movie about guys who love their wives, are great fathers, and never do anything bad?
- rewind 18y ago
  The sarcasm is because the body isn't even in the morgue and we're talking about entertainment value.
  - sgibat 18y ago
    Yeah but people make Challenger jokes all the time.
    - hugh 18y ago
      Still? And yet so few Columbia jokes.
- tptacek 18y ago
  Capra did OK at it.
- VinzO 18y ago
  Little House on the Prairie :-P
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- jimbokun 18y ago
  Not movies, but the premise to a large percentage of all sit-coms ever made.
sant0sk1 18y ago
Best movie of '07 according to the Academy was No Country For Old Men, a story of a man who goes about flipping coins and killing people with an air gun. Yes, morbid stories make for good movies. Even true ones.
- mrtron 18y ago
  That was a fictional movie. The movie was unpredictable with stunning visuals. I found the representation of death and violence in the movie fantastic. It was portrayed as sudden and uneventful, only lasting a split second. /end rant - but to claim the movie was about flipping coins and killing people doesn't do it justice.
  - pfedor 18y ago
    An older movie by the same authors--"Fargo"--was based on facts and was even better than "No Country for Old Men."
- rms 18y ago
  I liked There Will Be Blood a lot more -- my favorite movie of the last few years, plus it had a soundtrack by the great Johnny Greenwood. Was I the only one that identified with the main character? I think that's why most people found it a difficult movie.
  - izaidi 18y ago
    You weren't. Running through my head practically every day: "I have a competition in me. I want no one else to succeed." I like to think it's mostly cautionary, but, you know. Also, if you can still edit that post, I'd advise taking the "h" out of Jonny Greenwood's name before one of those annoying Radiohead fanatics points out the mistake. :)
    - rms 18y ago
      :) Too late, can't believe I missed that, I am indeed one of those Radiohead fanatics. I actually have extra tickets for the Seattle show (I got my tickets for DC+Cleveland+Philly and Seattle was still available so I got them to ebay) that I would sell for what I paid. Section 101, row 10.
jm4 18y ago
The guy is a total scum bag and just about the last person anyone needs to make a movie about, but it might be worth it just for the "you're about to experience chaos" line. Classic. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/oakland-califor.html http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/oakland-califor.htm...
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by rewind 18y ago

mikkom 18y ago

But this guy also codes a filesystem during the process!

mrtron 18y ago

And wrote a filesystem chose by several distros as the default. He was a seriously smart guy - and thats what make the story relative. A lot of smart people have mental illness. Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -Hemmingway

helveticaman 18y ago
>A lot of smart people have mental illness. How can you question his sanity? Just because he does something unusual doesn't mean he's crazy. I don't question the sanity of really smart people (say, Bobby Fischer or James Watson) because I can't fathom what goes on in their minds. Sure, I'd find Hans Reiser guilty if the evidence warranted it, but accuse him of being insane? That would be arrogant.
- mrtron 18y ago
  Mental illness does mean insanity or crazy. It could be a deep bout of depression that caused him to bury his wife. Regardless of circumstances, it is not a reasonable thing to do.

ojbyrne 18y ago

This sure made me think of the recent "Don't talk to police" thread. I'm not saying he's innocent or anything, and clearly murder is a bad thing (which sounds trite and insensitive), but it just seems like a really bad move on his part. Maybe it got sold to him as saving his own ass, but it seems like it did the opposite. Being convicted is only part of the process - there's appeals, and appeals, and more appeals. And again, apologies if I sound insensitive. I don't know any of the individuals belonged, and murders are so often in the news that it's easy to discuss them without any real emotion.

mechanical_fish 18y ago
Perhaps the guy really isn't an emotionless robot built entirely of ego -- and, now that his self-defense instinct has exhausted itself, his urge to stop lying, express some entirely authentic and long-suppressed remorse, and save his wife's family and his own children from a lifetime of uncertainty has finally won out. (For further insight into this aspect of the human psyche I recommend Dostoyevsky's Crime and Punishment.) Or, perhaps he's an emotionless robot playing the role of a remorseful human being. If so, I think it's about time. It's not as if Plan A was working out well for anyone. Requiescat in Pace
martey 18y ago
He is getting a second-degree conviction instead of first-degree. From the article: The maximum sentence Reiser could receive for second-degree murder is 15 years to life. Reiser had faced a term of 25 years to life under his first-degree murder conviction. Considering his sentencing hearing is in a couple of days, I think it makes logical sense.
- ojbyrne 18y ago
  Either I skipped right over those 2 paragraphs, or it wasn't there when I read the article. It says "Updated at 20:11 PDT" Either way my point has been invalidated.

akd 18y ago

Ever tried to make an interesting movie about guys who love their wives, are great fathers, and never do anything bad?

rewind 18y ago
The sarcasm is because the body isn't even in the morgue and we're talking about entertainment value.
- sgibat 18y ago
  Yeah but people make Challenger jokes all the time.
  - hugh 18y ago
    Still? And yet so few Columbia jokes.
tptacek 18y ago
Capra did OK at it.
VinzO 18y ago
Little House on the Prairie :-P
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jimbokun 18y ago
Not movies, but the premise to a large percentage of all sit-coms ever made.

sant0sk1 18y ago

Best movie of '07 according to the Academy was No Country For Old Men, a story of a man who goes about flipping coins and killing people with an air gun. Yes, morbid stories make for good movies. Even true ones.

mrtron 18y ago
That was a fictional movie. The movie was unpredictable with stunning visuals. I found the representation of death and violence in the movie fantastic. It was portrayed as sudden and uneventful, only lasting a split second. /end rant - but to claim the movie was about flipping coins and killing people doesn't do it justice.
- pfedor 18y ago
  An older movie by the same authors--"Fargo"--was based on facts and was even better than "No Country for Old Men."
rms 18y ago
I liked There Will Be Blood a lot more -- my favorite movie of the last few years, plus it had a soundtrack by the great Johnny Greenwood. Was I the only one that identified with the main character? I think that's why most people found it a difficult movie.
- izaidi 18y ago
  You weren't. Running through my head practically every day: "I have a competition in me. I want no one else to succeed." I like to think it's mostly cautionary, but, you know. Also, if you can still edit that post, I'd advise taking the "h" out of Jonny Greenwood's name before one of those annoying Radiohead fanatics points out the mistake. :)
  - rms 18y ago
    :) Too late, can't believe I missed that, I am indeed one of those Radiohead fanatics. I actually have extra tickets for the Seattle show (I got my tickets for DC+Cleveland+Philly and Seattle was still available so I got them to ebay) that I would sell for what I paid. Section 101, row 10.

jm4 18y ago

The guy is a total scum bag and just about the last person anyone needs to make a movie about, but it might be worth it just for the "you're about to experience chaos" line. Classic. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Hans_Reiser http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/oakland-califor.html http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/oakland-califor.htm...

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