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How is the US style of center-liberalism extreme, as compared to an ideology that demands total control over the economy and its citizens? Or do you think conc

How is the US style of center-liberalism extreme, as compared to an ideology that demands total control over the economy and its citizens? Or do you think concepts such as "rule of law" are extremist?

shirakawasuna 6y ago
- Extreme individualism. - Heavy militarism. - Strong national chauvinism that is exploited by all major parties. - A commitment to policing / hegemony, destroying, destabilizing countries while convincing themselves that it's "for democracy", etc. The bar for destroying another country is very low and usually based on lies, but the forces leading to it are never questioned. - A 90% commitment to laissez-faire economics with token controls thrown in to prevent the economic system from destroying itself every ten years. - The moralization of poverty: the poor deserve it in some sense. - A conviction that problems are solved through the "marketplace of ideas", not class conflict or a return to former glory, tradition, etc. - A hard ideological divide between civil liberties and economic inequities. - The equation of laissez-faire with freedom. - The cultural acceptance of white supremacy as the norm, even to the extent that it's frequently unnoticed. etc etc
zanny 6y ago
At the very least the commodification of absolutely everything is pretty extreme.
- Nasrudith 6y ago
  It isn't absolutely everything for one. If it was then you could legally buy slaves, nuclear weapons or foreign nations could buy New York in its entirety based upon a market cap would be far closer to commodification of everything. Commoditization is just a fundamental result of math basically. Fundamentally there is still a cost to a commodities no matter what party pays for it to provide it or bar access through certain methods as illegitimate like it being illegal to buy organs from a donor for transplant.

shirakawasuna 6y ago

- Extreme individualism. - Heavy militarism. - Strong national chauvinism that is exploited by all major parties. - A commitment to policing / hegemony, destroying, destabilizing countries while convincing themselves that it's "for democracy", etc. The bar for destroying another country is very low and usually based on lies, but the forces leading to it are never questioned. - A 90% commitment to laissez-faire economics with token controls thrown in to prevent the economic system from destroying itself every ten years. - The moralization of poverty: the poor deserve it in some sense. - A conviction that problems are solved through the "marketplace of ideas", not class conflict or a return to former glory, tradition, etc. - A hard ideological divide between civil liberties and economic inequities. - The equation of laissez-faire with freedom. - The cultural acceptance of white supremacy as the norm, even to the extent that it's frequently unnoticed. etc etc

zanny 6y ago

At the very least the commodification of absolutely everything is pretty extreme.

Nasrudith 6y ago
It isn't absolutely everything for one. If it was then you could legally buy slaves, nuclear weapons or foreign nations could buy New York in its entirety based upon a market cap would be far closer to commodification of everything. Commoditization is just a fundamental result of math basically. Fundamentally there is still a cost to a commodities no matter what party pays for it to provide it or bar access through certain methods as illegitimate like it being illegal to buy organs from a donor for transplant.