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London is notorious for low SWEng salaries; you might not have any other choice than to contract somebody in Ukraine who didn't escape somewhere else if your ow

by bitL 6y ago

London is notorious for low SWEng salaries; you might not have any other choice than to contract somebody in Ukraine who didn't escape somewhere else if your own employees get higher paid remote gigs in the US...

movedx 6y ago
> London is notorious for low SWEng salaries I was actually going to challenge this before I did a bit of research and discovered you're right - the average wage for a software engineer is £47,500 (https://www.cwjobs.co.uk/salary-checker/average-it-salary https://www.cwjobs.co.uk/salary-checker/average-it-salary). That's ugly. I'm from Liverpool originally (live abroad now) and I have friends in Manchester earning £50-60k... in the North of England. That's a big wage in that area.
- drexlspivey 6y ago
  That's for IT though? Software engineer average is £72500 based on your link
  - rootusrootus 6y ago
    Anecdotally, the one senior dev we have on my team from London makes mid/upper 40s. I was astounded when I found that out.
    - disgruntledphd2 6y ago
      Yeah, even both Google and FB pay engineers pretty terribly in London. I was once asked to move there, and I refused unless they accounted for cost of living changes. They didn't, so I stayed working at my original office.
- jumhyn 6y ago
  The stat you link appears to be for "IT" jobs across all of the UK. Restricting the search to "Software Engineer" and "London"[0] bumps the number up quite a bit to £72,500 as of when I checked. [0]: https://www.cwjobs.co.uk/salary-checker/average-software-engineer-salary-london https://www.cwjobs.co.uk/salary-checker/average-software-eng...
  - movedx 6y ago
    That's a good catch. I hadn't realised it was targeting the country because I specifically searched for London. Silly me. 72k in London isn't a lot :)
x87678r 6y ago
> London is notorious for low SWEng salaries With the banks and big tech, I'm pretty sure it has the highest paying SWE salaries in Europe.
- bitL 6y ago
  Facebook London rarely gives 100k+ base. Compare that to SFBA.
  - disgruntledphd2 6y ago
    I would have said 90-100 at E5, right? The stock grants are pretty terrible too (relative to the Bay Area, at least).
- PunchTornado 6y ago
  That's Zurich

by bitL 6y ago

movedx 6y ago

> London is notorious for low SWEng salaries I was actually going to challenge this before I did a bit of research and discovered you're right - the average wage for a software engineer is £47,500 (https://www.cwjobs.co.uk/salary-checker/average-it-salary https://www.cwjobs.co.uk/salary-checker/average-it-salary). That's ugly. I'm from Liverpool originally (live abroad now) and I have friends in Manchester earning £50-60k... in the North of England. That's a big wage in that area.

drexlspivey 6y ago
That's for IT though? Software engineer average is £72500 based on your link
- rootusrootus 6y ago
  Anecdotally, the one senior dev we have on my team from London makes mid/upper 40s. I was astounded when I found that out.
  - disgruntledphd2 6y ago
    Yeah, even both Google and FB pay engineers pretty terribly in London. I was once asked to move there, and I refused unless they accounted for cost of living changes. They didn't, so I stayed working at my original office.
jumhyn 6y ago
The stat you link appears to be for "IT" jobs across all of the UK. Restricting the search to "Software Engineer" and "London"[0] bumps the number up quite a bit to £72,500 as of when I checked. [0]: https://www.cwjobs.co.uk/salary-checker/average-software-engineer-salary-london https://www.cwjobs.co.uk/salary-checker/average-software-eng...
- movedx 6y ago
  That's a good catch. I hadn't realised it was targeting the country because I specifically searched for London. Silly me. 72k in London isn't a lot :)

x87678r 6y ago

> London is notorious for low SWEng salaries With the banks and big tech, I'm pretty sure it has the highest paying SWE salaries in Europe.

bitL 6y ago
Facebook London rarely gives 100k+ base. Compare that to SFBA.
- disgruntledphd2 6y ago
  I would have said 90-100 at E5, right? The stock grants are pretty terrible too (relative to the Bay Area, at least).
PunchTornado 6y ago
That's Zurich