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Most interesting to me is how common this is across demographic groups. >Self‐ censorship is widespread across demographic groups as well. Nearly two‐ thirds o
by Wohlf 6y ago
Most interesting to me is how common this is across demographic groups.
>Self‐ censorship is widespread across demographic groups as well. Nearly two‐ thirds of Latino Americans (65%) and White Americans (64%) and nearly half of African Americans (49%) have political views they are afraid to share. Majorities of men (65%) and women (59%), people with incomes over $100,000 (60%) and people with incomes less than $20,000 (58%), people under 35 (55%) and over 65 (66%), religious (71%) and non‐ religious (56%) all agree that the political climate prevents them from expressing their true beliefs.
- notyourday 6y ago(D) might be in for the bigger surprise than the ones Upper East Siders saying "No one is going to vote for Nixon. I have all kinds of friends and none of them is pro-Nixon"
- lambdasquirrel 6y agoWell as a POC, there's plenty of things I don't feel comfortable sharing. A lot is situational. It's really hard sharing anything that might make people realize they might not be as "progressive" as they think they are – regardless of where they are on the political spectrum. Liberals are frequently unaware of their blind spots (but if you take care, they can be corrected). And then there's a swath of conservatives that don't think they're racist. If you should suggest it, it's too easy for them to dig themselves deeper into a hole. All too frequently, I'll wish I stuck to non-political / comfortable topics – and remembered that political-correctness is there to protect me as an individual, so I can live in my bubble and get on with the day, even though PC-culture might be bad policy for society.
- skinkestek 6y ago> And then there's a swath of conservatives that don't think they're racist. You are aware that the way you phrase it makes it sound like we all are? I've recognized a few times that I say things in a way that makes people mad even though my original point was fine.
- cultus 6y agoHave you considered that perhaps you could have unconscious racial biases? It sounds like you do if you're making people mad about it.
- skinkestek 6y agoMostly people are not mad at me for this but for other things I guess. In fact I have had a foreigner come back and thank me several years later for the effort I put in for her and there are several others that seem happy evertime I meet them. (HN is a weird place though. Here I am racist according to many peoples definitions.)
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- all_usernames 6y ago> makes it sound like we all are Ding ding ding! Yes. We all are. Conservatives and liberals. Everyone is programmed with racist attitudes from the culture-at-large. Many or most never question these unconscious attitudes. In my experience, folks who have been actively working on racism and social justice for years if not decades are the first to admit that they too carry racist, largely unconscious, beliefs and attitudes. A lot of people don't seem to grok unconscious bias.
- tmpz22 6y ago"We all are. Conservatives and liberals." Genuine question, does this include black people?
- JAlexoid 6y agoYes, because racism is: Racism, also called racialism, the belief that humans may be divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called “races”; that there is a causal link between inherited physical traits and traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural and behavioral features; and that some races are innately superior to others. https://www.britannica.com/topic/racism https://www.britannica.com/topic/racism
- wu_tang_chris 6y ago> Well as a POC stopped reading
- lovegoblin 6y agoWhat? Why?
- JungleGymSam 6y agoBecause that person believes their point of view must be taken as truth and cannot be questioned because of the color of their skin. We used to call this "racist".
- cultus 6y agoYou are a racist who is projecting.
- dangus 6y agoExcuse me? If you don’t mind, can you please point out the sentence or phrase lambdasquirrel said that would indicate to you that they consider their point of view must be taken as truth and cannot be questioned? They were just giving their opinion based on their perspective, and their status as a person of color was something they felt was an important detail since the original article involved demographic data, and you jumped down their throat over it.
- JungleGymSam 6y ago> Well as a POC That right there.
- JAlexoid 6y agoBeing POC doesn't make you any more or less right - considering that nothing of what you wrote is exclusively applicable to POC in US. You created a narrative that any opposition to your opinion will be instantly regarded as racist. (That said, I disagree with the prejudiced person above)
- Diesel555 6y ago> And then there's a swath of conservatives that don't think they're racist You do realize you are taking a gigantic group of people and classifying them all as having some property without knowing the person at all, sounds discriminatory. And realize you used the word conservative, not Republican, so don't base it on policy decisions that people support as we all known Republicans do not represent conservative policies in most cases you are concerned about. These are two different things which are not inclusive or mutually exclusive.
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