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> 3. When i went through YC (recently), we had a "masterclass" of sorts on growth with @patrickc & @collision . Once of the first questions they asked the grou

> 3. When i went through YC (recently), we had a "masterclass" of sorts on growth with @patrickc & @collision . Once of the first questions they asked the group was "how many of you are consumer companies?" > Like... 2 people raised their hands and everyone else laughed hysterically. Are B2C inherently better than B2Bs? What's his argument here? I, for one, was never one to enjoy B2C products (matter of fact, I think most of them are stupid), so I don't understand his disdain for everything not B2C

MattGaiser 6y ago
Some people perceive them as "corporate" instead of "disruptive."
aty268 6y ago
His argument is that B2C is underrepresented and laughed at in YC, despite it being a vital and huge market. He isn't saying one is better than the other. Ebay, AirBNB, Apple, Uber, Github, heard of any? It's too bad you were never able to enjoy B2C products, because these products are worth trying.
- felipellrocha 6y ago
  I'm not saying these companies provide any value. Looking how I wrote my previous comment, I might've mispoken. What I was trying to say is that early on, whenever someone pitches B2Cs to me, I tend to think they're all stupid. I don't get them. That's not to say they don't provide value. Same thing on the B2B side. They provide a ton of value, so no reason to think one is better than the other.
  - aty268 6y ago
    You don't 'get' how B2C companies work? What does this even mean? You would pass on Uber because you can't understand how a business could possibly sell directly to customers? Why not just say you focus solely on B2B companies? That's a lot more reasonable than trying to argue that B2C is 'stupid', because the market caps of these companies would strongly disagree.
danenania 6y ago
I don't know if it was the case here, but it's also worth mentioning that these YC workshops often run alongside other workshops at the same time, and founders choose the ones they find most relevant. It makes sense that most of the founders who would choose to go to a growth workshop led by the Stripe founders would be running b2b companies.

MattGaiser 6y ago

Some people perceive them as "corporate" instead of "disruptive."

aty268 6y ago

His argument is that B2C is underrepresented and laughed at in YC, despite it being a vital and huge market. He isn't saying one is better than the other. Ebay, AirBNB, Apple, Uber, Github, heard of any? It's too bad you were never able to enjoy B2C products, because these products are worth trying.

felipellrocha 6y ago
I'm not saying these companies provide any value. Looking how I wrote my previous comment, I might've mispoken. What I was trying to say is that early on, whenever someone pitches B2Cs to me, I tend to think they're all stupid. I don't get them. That's not to say they don't provide value. Same thing on the B2B side. They provide a ton of value, so no reason to think one is better than the other.
- aty268 6y ago
  You don't 'get' how B2C companies work? What does this even mean? You would pass on Uber because you can't understand how a business could possibly sell directly to customers? Why not just say you focus solely on B2B companies? That's a lot more reasonable than trying to argue that B2C is 'stupid', because the market caps of these companies would strongly disagree.

danenania 6y ago

I don't know if it was the case here, but it's also worth mentioning that these YC workshops often run alongside other workshops at the same time, and founders choose the ones they find most relevant. It makes sense that most of the founders who would choose to go to a growth workshop led by the Stripe founders would be running b2b companies.