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They certainly stoked the fireplace that is brexit and kept winding people up about it

cameronbrown 6y ago
Are you saying the electorate are somehow unable to cope with an idea being mentioned online? Ridiculous.
secondcoming 6y ago
Of course they did. They stoke issues that already exist, they're not invented. Just like how the Russians have been stoking race-issues in the US for decades. Are Antifa and BLM Russian plots to destabilise the US? They certainly have that signature [0], that doesn't mean they aren't valid movements. [0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q
- harry8 6y ago
  Just quietly, many of us find this view that "the russians did it" pretty comical. Putin must have killed George Floyd and videoed it. Why else would anyone be bothered by anything? But yeah, Hillary says "The Russians" rather than she was beaten because her brand of Washington insider corruption is stunningly electorally unpopular. People buy it. Her faction has kept control of the Deomcrat party and that's a well they keep on going back to succesfully. The mind boggles. Remember the "Putin puttin' bounties on US soldiers!!" story, it's only a week or two ago. It was huge. It focused politicans with a great justification for stopping the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. It's now been as exposed as vapor-news. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-officials-say-intel-russian-bounties-was-less-conclusive-n1233199 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-offic... You can loathe Trump among many, many other things and still look at the "Russians under the Bed" and ask questions about whether the CIA and FBI are playing domestic politics in ways they should not be. In ways that are more dangerous to freedom in the USA than any foreign adversary could be. Needless to say there's no WMD in Iraq either. Maybe Putin hid those too. Why not? People seem to believe anything when you use Putin as the scapegoat. In all truth, he does actually seem to be as horrible a human being as Saddam was. So if we're going there let's go. Hilary Clinton and the establishment democrats are all, just like the establishment Republicans a Putin plot to undermine freedom by making americans give up on cleaning up the endemic Washington corruption. That corruption is about the only thing to which the USA really is vulnerable. So yeah, blaming everying on the Russians is really doing Putin's work for him. Putin wants you to blame him for everything with no evidence as a distraction. You're doing Putin's work by doing it. :S
  - dontcarethrow2 6y ago
    Since it is still working to great effect, it looks like we will never have internal enemies within our government(which makes sense you don't want to look divided/weak). It will always be The Russians or the Chinese of the day. All too convenient, I hope someone on the inside can gather resistence but it feels like the machine is well oiled and programmed. We can only hope/work towards better education in content consumption.
- harry8 6y ago
  I have a reply to this that is "flagged" because I strongly doubt the russian bogeyman story offered without evidence that keeps on falling apart. Now why would that be flagged? Must be Putin.

Are you saying the electorate are somehow unable to cope with an idea being mentioned online? Ridiculous.

Of course they did. They stoke issues that already exist, they're not invented. Just like how the Russians have been stoking race-issues in the US for decades. Are Antifa and BLM Russian plots to destabilise the US? They certainly have that signature [0], that doesn't mean they aren't valid movements. [0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1EA2ohrt5Q

harry8 6y ago
Just quietly, many of us find this view that "the russians did it" pretty comical. Putin must have killed George Floyd and videoed it. Why else would anyone be bothered by anything? But yeah, Hillary says "The Russians" rather than she was beaten because her brand of Washington insider corruption is stunningly electorally unpopular. People buy it. Her faction has kept control of the Deomcrat party and that's a well they keep on going back to succesfully. The mind boggles. Remember the "Putin puttin' bounties on US soldiers!!" story, it's only a week or two ago. It was huge. It focused politicans with a great justification for stopping the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. It's now been as exposed as vapor-news. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-officials-say-intel-russian-bounties-was-less-conclusive-n1233199 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-offic... You can loathe Trump among many, many other things and still look at the "Russians under the Bed" and ask questions about whether the CIA and FBI are playing domestic politics in ways they should not be. In ways that are more dangerous to freedom in the USA than any foreign adversary could be. Needless to say there's no WMD in Iraq either. Maybe Putin hid those too. Why not? People seem to believe anything when you use Putin as the scapegoat. In all truth, he does actually seem to be as horrible a human being as Saddam was. So if we're going there let's go. Hilary Clinton and the establishment democrats are all, just like the establishment Republicans a Putin plot to undermine freedom by making americans give up on cleaning up the endemic Washington corruption. That corruption is about the only thing to which the USA really is vulnerable. So yeah, blaming everying on the Russians is really doing Putin's work for him. Putin wants you to blame him for everything with no evidence as a distraction. You're doing Putin's work by doing it. :S
- dontcarethrow2 6y ago
  Since it is still working to great effect, it looks like we will never have internal enemies within our government(which makes sense you don't want to look divided/weak). It will always be The Russians or the Chinese of the day. All too convenient, I hope someone on the inside can gather resistence but it feels like the machine is well oiled and programmed. We can only hope/work towards better education in content consumption.
harry8 6y ago
I have a reply to this that is "flagged" because I strongly doubt the russian bogeyman story offered without evidence that keeps on falling apart. Now why would that be flagged? Must be Putin.