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This is exactly why people call a lot of “news” fake news. That news outlet was not doing journalism but rather a smear piece for the purpose of views. The gu

This is exactly why people call a lot of “news” fake news. That news outlet was not doing journalism but rather a smear piece for the purpose of views. The guy was 16. Everyone would be fired if they dug up everyone that was done in their teens years and accountable for it today. This is news outlet abusively used their power without caring for the consequences of what it would to this man. I’m getting really tired of this shaming. I oppose gay marriage, I oppose abortion, and while they’re are racists, I don’t believe their is institutional fascism taking place based upon the color of skin. ...but that is what makes our country great. We can have different view points. We can have discussions. When we take away those we begin to turn into a society similar to China where it’s not acceptable to have differing views and certainly not discussion.

throw5876543 6y ago
This should also make us wonder if the news about China, Russia, India, and Saudi Arabia are smear pieces too.
- xlm1717 6y ago
  Totally not a suspicious thing for a throwaway account to say.
  - dang 6y ago
    This breaks the site guidelines. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules. Note this one: "Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20astroturf https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...
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loopz 6y ago
We get the news that sells. Otherwise, everyone should have their own staff of investiative reporters. It is simply cause-and-effect from the established conditions. What this shows is that "cancel culture" is utterly toxic, and cuts both ways. You don't get to dehumanize people without reprecussions to your own status anymore. News media should reflect on their role and function in society once more too, as the focus on "dirt" just ends us all up in the same swamp inevitably. The simple truth is, according to ethnicity and color of skin, the availability of opportunities are vastly different. That is institutional and cultural, that is now being adressed. One can choose to shut their eyes, ears and mind, or reach out a hand and try to understand the underlying issues and how other people think and feel about it below the hurt.
- codeddesign 6y ago
  I don’t disagree with you on the last point. However, I believe a lot of it is cultural and environment rather than color of skin. To give a completely honest example.. Some one speaking British English will likely sound more educated than some one speaking Ebonics. This perception caries over to areas such as business. A person with the perception of being “educated” will likely have higher sales numbers compared to the latter. Home life is critical. Asians for example as part of the culture place a very high standard on education (in general - based upon my own life knowledge) while other culture do not. Those were just some points. I do believe there is an issue, but I heavily disagree that their is systemic racism due to skin color that is stopping those that are black (for example) from achieving greater financial success.
  - loopz 6y ago
    Feel free to disagree :) The problem is the same, wether it's technically due to skin color or not though. Try migrating to another country, it's not easy to integrate, and can be very hit'n miss for anybody. It's much the same problems, and in need to be solving as to get more equal participation in society. There's also degrees, and no secret that discrimination/favourism is systematic in many countries simply due to tone of skin. It needs extra effort, or remain systematic and institutional. Marginalization simply cannot be afforded.

throw5876543 6y ago

This should also make us wonder if the news about China, Russia, India, and Saudi Arabia are smear pieces too.

xlm1717 6y ago
Totally not a suspicious thing for a throwaway account to say.
- dang 6y ago
  This breaks the site guidelines. Please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules. Note this one: "Please don't post insinuations about astroturfing, shilling, brigading, foreign agents and the like. It degrades discussion and is usually mistaken. If you're worried about abuse, email hn@ycombinator.com and we'll look at the data." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20astroturf https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...

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loopz 6y ago

We get the news that sells. Otherwise, everyone should have their own staff of investiative reporters. It is simply cause-and-effect from the established conditions. What this shows is that "cancel culture" is utterly toxic, and cuts both ways. You don't get to dehumanize people without reprecussions to your own status anymore. News media should reflect on their role and function in society once more too, as the focus on "dirt" just ends us all up in the same swamp inevitably. The simple truth is, according to ethnicity and color of skin, the availability of opportunities are vastly different. That is institutional and cultural, that is now being adressed. One can choose to shut their eyes, ears and mind, or reach out a hand and try to understand the underlying issues and how other people think and feel about it below the hurt.

codeddesign 6y ago
I don’t disagree with you on the last point. However, I believe a lot of it is cultural and environment rather than color of skin. To give a completely honest example.. Some one speaking British English will likely sound more educated than some one speaking Ebonics. This perception caries over to areas such as business. A person with the perception of being “educated” will likely have higher sales numbers compared to the latter. Home life is critical. Asians for example as part of the culture place a very high standard on education (in general - based upon my own life knowledge) while other culture do not. Those were just some points. I do believe there is an issue, but I heavily disagree that their is systemic racism due to skin color that is stopping those that are black (for example) from achieving greater financial success.
- loopz 6y ago
  Feel free to disagree :) The problem is the same, wether it's technically due to skin color or not though. Try migrating to another country, it's not easy to integrate, and can be very hit'n miss for anybody. It's much the same problems, and in need to be solving as to get more equal participation in society. There's also degrees, and no secret that discrimination/favourism is systematic in many countries simply due to tone of skin. It needs extra effort, or remain systematic and institutional. Marginalization simply cannot be afforded.