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Why would you want a monitor or a tv screen with a refresh rate of 7 fps? And that's monochrome. For actual RGB output, you need three refreshes, and the RGB on

Why would you want a monitor or a tv screen with a refresh rate of 7 fps? And that's monochrome. For actual RGB output, you need three refreshes, and the RGB ones are slower, so you might get a frame per second.

reificator 6y ago
I'd be ecstatic with a monochrome 20"+ eink monitor for use after 8:00PM or so. With the F.lux settings I use on my normal monitor it's practically monochrome anyway. 7FPS is probably not quite high enough, but I've seen 10-13" displays with 15-20FPS, and that would be fine for normal computing. I'd probably swap my scrollwheel for PageUp/PageDown to make full page refreshes a little more pleasant though.
- andai 6y ago
  There was a brief interest in transflective LCD technology in the 2000s and early 2010s but it seems to have died off (at least for consumer products), which means sunlight-readable (or candle-readable, for the evenings) LCD with high refresh rates. There was even one company (edit: Pixel Qi) putting solar cells in the displays themselves, so the device recharged while being used in sunlight. YouTube video comparing Pixel Qi in sunlight with normal backlit LCD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1mD6vhp3U8#t=1m45s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1mD6vhp3U8#t=1m45s (around 01:45)
marcosdumay 6y ago
7 pfs are not a showstopper for a console I don't know why one would want a huge daylight visible console, but it's one of those things where I'm just not creative enough.
- nitrogen 6y ago
  I don't know why one would want a huge daylight visible console, but it's one of those things where I'm just not creative enough. Not exactly a command line terminal, but there was an ambient signage project on HN recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22831323 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22831323 Also https://onezero.medium.com/meet-accent-352cfa95813a https://onezero.medium.com/meet-accent-352cfa95813a
LeifCarrotson 6y ago
Because I use that monitor to read and write text. Lots and lots of text, very little video. 7 fps is abundantly adequate for reading text if you only interact with it by hitting 'page down' every 30 seconds, and if your typing is accurate enough that 150ms delay between hitting the key and seeing the character doesn't cause errors it's fine for writing text. I don't need 30, 60, 120, or 144 Hz refresh rates to work with text. It would probably be impossible to see the difference. What I need is contrast and brightness settings to limit eye fatigue, and that's where e-ink would be great.

reificator 6y ago

I'd be ecstatic with a monochrome 20"+ eink monitor for use after 8:00PM or so. With the F.lux settings I use on my normal monitor it's practically monochrome anyway. 7FPS is probably not quite high enough, but I've seen 10-13" displays with 15-20FPS, and that would be fine for normal computing. I'd probably swap my scrollwheel for PageUp/PageDown to make full page refreshes a little more pleasant though.

andai 6y ago
There was a brief interest in transflective LCD technology in the 2000s and early 2010s but it seems to have died off (at least for consumer products), which means sunlight-readable (or candle-readable, for the evenings) LCD with high refresh rates. There was even one company (edit: Pixel Qi) putting solar cells in the displays themselves, so the device recharged while being used in sunlight. YouTube video comparing Pixel Qi in sunlight with normal backlit LCD https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1mD6vhp3U8#t=1m45s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1mD6vhp3U8#t=1m45s (around 01:45)

marcosdumay 6y ago

7 pfs are not a showstopper for a console I don't know why one would want a huge daylight visible console, but it's one of those things where I'm just not creative enough.

nitrogen 6y ago
I don't know why one would want a huge daylight visible console, but it's one of those things where I'm just not creative enough. Not exactly a command line terminal, but there was an ambient signage project on HN recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22831323 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22831323 Also https://onezero.medium.com/meet-accent-352cfa95813a https://onezero.medium.com/meet-accent-352cfa95813a

LeifCarrotson 6y ago

Because I use that monitor to read and write text. Lots and lots of text, very little video. 7 fps is abundantly adequate for reading text if you only interact with it by hitting 'page down' every 30 seconds, and if your typing is accurate enough that 150ms delay between hitting the key and seeing the character doesn't cause errors it's fine for writing text. I don't need 30, 60, 120, or 144 Hz refresh rates to work with text. It would probably be impossible to see the difference. What I need is contrast and brightness settings to limit eye fatigue, and that's where e-ink would be great.