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More people being forced out of Angular team

62 points by robertwalsh0 6y ago

googthrowaway42 6y ago
When I worked at Google, Rob came and gave a talk to our team about NgRx. Based on my experience at Google and having worked extensively with front end technologies there I am not surprised that someone as talented as Rob was forced to quit. The Angular project and how it relates to other front end technologies within Google is unbelievably political and it almost seems as though the Angular team takes pleasure in suppressing superior technologies and solutions. An example of this is that the Angular team also owns support for Typescript within Google (not organizationally, but it's the same people). They turned off support for .tsx despite many protests from many, many different teams within Google and the motive was very clearly to dissuade the use of React.
- robwormald 6y ago
  Ugh. Thanks for the kind words :)
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aliswe 6y ago
One comment that stood out to me in that thread was the accusation of casteism in connection with Sundars leadership style - an extreme (but pecurliarly specific) claim for sure. I hope that accusation is groundless. If you feel it is, please refute it in the thread as it's currently uncontested.
- solarkraft 6y ago
  > as it's currently uncontested What indication is there for it being true?
  - aliswe 6y ago
    I'm asking as well!
vekker 6y ago
This just confirms the sentiment shared in the article by Jeff Cross in March. It's very, very disconcerting. Especially for people who've been working with Angular(JS) for years, like me. A fish rots from the head. At a certain point, if Google can't get its leadership together, the community should probably just do a fork
em-bee 6y ago
there are two articles mentiond in the thread, which are worth reading. https://medium.com/@devinlijkw/why-angular-sucks-c90f4e734231 https://medium.com/@devinlijkw/why-angular-sucks-c90f4e73423... https://medium.com/@jeffbcross/jeffs-letter-to-the-angular-team-and-community-5367934a16c9 https://medium.com/@jeffbcross/jeffs-letter-to-the-angular-t... jeff also mentions rob eisenbergs earlier departure http://bluespire.com/eisenbergeffect/blog/2014/11/17/leaving-angular/ http://bluespire.com/eisenbergeffect/blog/2014/11/17/leaving... which i find interesting because one of the reasons i like aurelia is because rob tried to work with angular before going his own way.

62 points by robertwalsh0 6y ago

When I worked at Google, Rob came and gave a talk to our team about NgRx. Based on my experience at Google and having worked extensively with front end technologies there I am not surprised that someone as talented as Rob was forced to quit. The Angular project and how it relates to other front end technologies within Google is unbelievably political and it almost seems as though the Angular team takes pleasure in suppressing superior technologies and solutions. An example of this is that the Angular team also owns support for Typescript within Google (not organizationally, but it's the same people). They turned off support for .tsx despite many protests from many, many different teams within Google and the motive was very clearly to dissuade the use of React.

robwormald 6y ago
Ugh. Thanks for the kind words :)

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aliswe 6y ago

One comment that stood out to me in that thread was the accusation of casteism in connection with Sundars leadership style - an extreme (but pecurliarly specific) claim for sure. I hope that accusation is groundless. If you feel it is, please refute it in the thread as it's currently uncontested.

solarkraft 6y ago
> as it's currently uncontested What indication is there for it being true?
- aliswe 6y ago
  I'm asking as well!

vekker 6y ago

This just confirms the sentiment shared in the article by Jeff Cross in March. It's very, very disconcerting. Especially for people who've been working with Angular(JS) for years, like me. A fish rots from the head. At a certain point, if Google can't get its leadership together, the community should probably just do a fork

em-bee 6y ago

there are two articles mentiond in the thread, which are worth reading. https://medium.com/@devinlijkw/why-angular-sucks-c90f4e734231 https://medium.com/@devinlijkw/why-angular-sucks-c90f4e73423... https://medium.com/@jeffbcross/jeffs-letter-to-the-angular-team-and-community-5367934a16c9 https://medium.com/@jeffbcross/jeffs-letter-to-the-angular-t... jeff also mentions rob eisenbergs earlier departure http://bluespire.com/eisenbergeffect/blog/2014/11/17/leaving-angular/ http://bluespire.com/eisenbergeffect/blog/2014/11/17/leaving... which i find interesting because one of the reasons i like aurelia is because rob tried to work with angular before going his own way.