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This is why, despite all its shortcomings, Android still is a more open platform compared to iOS. Big thanks to F-Droid and the open source Android community.

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benhurmarcel 6y ago
Would it be forbidden by Apple to publish a similar app for iOS?
- SebastianKra 6y ago
  Yes: https://jonasgessner.com/protube2-statement.html https://jonasgessner.com/protube2-statement.html
  - benhurmarcel 6y ago
    Interesting, thanks. I wonder how such an app would go if it only supported ad-free viewing for Youtube Premium accounts. So that the point would be additional features, not blocking ads.
- samtheprogram 6y ago
  I had another comment refuting the GP (as you are), but the more I thought about it, I decided to delete the comment. At the end of the day, you have to pay $99/year to publish on the Apple App Store, and on Android, although Google has had some shady practices around automatically flagging/removing apps from it's store, you have more options in terms of app distribution, such as F-Droid. To my (now deleted) comment's point though, I don't see much of a relation between F-Droid and NewPipe, besides that F-Droid hosts it. EDIT: other comment on this thread answers that last point I made and your question, and sums up what NewPipe has to do with the "openness" of the platforms [1]. However, I now wonder, what is stopping Google/YouTube from going after NewPipe & F-Droid? 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23874943 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23874943
  - m4rtink 6y ago
    Not just the money & the need to obtain another protform for app development (MacOS) but also the te inability to public GPL apps on app store (if you manage to get that far): https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/more-about-the-app-store-gpl-enforcement https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/more-about-the-app-store... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12827624 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12827624
  - ehsankia 6y ago
    Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not very familiar with iOS, but it's not so much F-Droid that makes Android great, but rather the fact that you are allowed to install apps outside of the Play Store. As far as I know, that's not possible on iOS without jailbreak (or the whole Testflight stuff that was being abused). F-Droid is just a visible example of that functionality.
  - eqtn 6y ago
    i think an open source app can easily be published on altstore.
- jraph 6y ago
  Even in a world where Apple does not prevent YouTube alternative clients in its app store, it would probably prevent alternative clients for its own services. Or, an app that would go as far as doing such deviant things as providing its own custom web engine and allow an iPad 2 to remain relevant and useful in 2020.
  - habitue 6y ago
    yeah exactly. Apple might allow an app like this, but it's only because Youtube is not theirs.
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benhurmarcel 6y ago

Would it be forbidden by Apple to publish a similar app for iOS?

SebastianKra 6y ago
Yes: https://jonasgessner.com/protube2-statement.html https://jonasgessner.com/protube2-statement.html
- benhurmarcel 6y ago
  Interesting, thanks. I wonder how such an app would go if it only supported ad-free viewing for Youtube Premium accounts. So that the point would be additional features, not blocking ads.
samtheprogram 6y ago
I had another comment refuting the GP (as you are), but the more I thought about it, I decided to delete the comment. At the end of the day, you have to pay $99/year to publish on the Apple App Store, and on Android, although Google has had some shady practices around automatically flagging/removing apps from it's store, you have more options in terms of app distribution, such as F-Droid. To my (now deleted) comment's point though, I don't see much of a relation between F-Droid and NewPipe, besides that F-Droid hosts it. EDIT: other comment on this thread answers that last point I made and your question, and sums up what NewPipe has to do with the "openness" of the platforms [1]. However, I now wonder, what is stopping Google/YouTube from going after NewPipe & F-Droid? 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23874943 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23874943
- m4rtink 6y ago
  Not just the money & the need to obtain another protform for app development (MacOS) but also the te inability to public GPL apps on app store (if you manage to get that far): https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/more-about-the-app-store-gpl-enforcement https://www.fsf.org/blogs/licensing/more-about-the-app-store... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12827624 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12827624
- ehsankia 6y ago
  Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not very familiar with iOS, but it's not so much F-Droid that makes Android great, but rather the fact that you are allowed to install apps outside of the Play Store. As far as I know, that's not possible on iOS without jailbreak (or the whole Testflight stuff that was being abused). F-Droid is just a visible example of that functionality.
- eqtn 6y ago
  i think an open source app can easily be published on altstore.
jraph 6y ago
Even in a world where Apple does not prevent YouTube alternative clients in its app store, it would probably prevent alternative clients for its own services. Or, an app that would go as far as doing such deviant things as providing its own custom web engine and allow an iPad 2 to remain relevant and useful in 2020.
- habitue 6y ago
  yeah exactly. Apple might allow an app like this, but it's only because Youtube is not theirs.
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