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On the flipside, I find IntelliJ causes my computer to go into overdrive while VSC is pretty snappy. A shame because I love using their software. I guess I just

by colmvp 6y ago

On the flipside, I find IntelliJ causes my computer to go into overdrive while VSC is pretty snappy. A shame because I love using their software. I guess I just need to get a new computer lol

ioseph 6y ago
Similarly, it's a pain because I found IntelliJ was far better at auto-completing modules across a javascript mono-repo, but the performance was bad that I've switched to VSC despite it generally being worse experience
freeqaz 6y ago
VSC != VS I'm sure VS chugs power like IntelliJ too
- moooo99 6y ago
  > VSC != VS Yes, but VSCode offers a lot of the functionality for a lot of the programming languages/frameworks OP mentioned he uses IntelliJ for. HTML, JS, CSS, Vue, Node, Python are all perfectly useable in VSCode. For stuff like Java and maybe SQL the full version of Visual Studio would be a fair comparison since VSCode's options for that aren't that amazing (imho).
  - mellosouls 6y ago
    I think it depends on the environment as to usablity: eg. on my home laptop, VSC is great; but on my locked-down corporate laptop everything is a slog library and extension-wise - Pycharm just works. That's obviously a process issue to an extent, but there is only so much time I want to spend messing about with this stuff, and if an IDE doesn't have me fighting admin rights every minute, I'll go with that one.
    - meditative 6y ago
      that was the primary driver to me moving full time into a linux VM for work. The corporate crap and antivirus made my overpowered laptop really slow. I then moved to booting with an external Samsung T5 SSD drive straight into Linux and running Windows in VMs. I still need the primary Windows for when I need to join the domain.
    - user5994461 6y ago
      I used Visual Studio extensively for Python development and occasional debugging of C#, it never once asked for admin privileges. Wouldn't be surprised if there are issues with older versions though like VS2010 or before.
      - mellosouls 6y ago
        VSCode, not VS - I used the user version, which didn't require admin privileges but as soon as I started trying to install libraries (e.g. Pandas etc), no dice. Some environments may vary - but like I said, time is limited, no issues with Pycharm.
winrid 6y ago
That's because IntelliJ is creating an (I think) inverted index and dependency graph of your project for code completion/Intellisense and it uses multiple CPU cores to do this as fast as possible. VSC won't do this to the same extent. Inverted indexes are slow to create, but fast to query.
- exikyut 6y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_index: There are two main variants of inverted indexes: A record-level inverted index (or inverted file index or just inverted file) contains a list of references to documents for each word. A word-level inverted index (or full inverted index or inverted list) additionally contains the positions of each word within a document. TL;DR, for every (key)word, list its file and position. A smart IDE implementation would also need to take file rename and move into account, and translate byte positions to line numbers for quick jump-to-file.

by colmvp 6y ago

On the flipside, I find IntelliJ causes my computer to go into overdrive while VSC is pretty snappy. A shame because I love using their software. I guess I just need to get a new computer lol

ioseph 6y ago

Similarly, it's a pain because I found IntelliJ was far better at auto-completing modules across a javascript mono-repo, but the performance was bad that I've switched to VSC despite it generally being worse experience

freeqaz 6y ago

VSC != VS I'm sure VS chugs power like IntelliJ too

moooo99 6y ago
> VSC != VS Yes, but VSCode offers a lot of the functionality for a lot of the programming languages/frameworks OP mentioned he uses IntelliJ for. HTML, JS, CSS, Vue, Node, Python are all perfectly useable in VSCode. For stuff like Java and maybe SQL the full version of Visual Studio would be a fair comparison since VSCode's options for that aren't that amazing (imho).
- mellosouls 6y ago
  I think it depends on the environment as to usablity: eg. on my home laptop, VSC is great; but on my locked-down corporate laptop everything is a slog library and extension-wise - Pycharm just works. That's obviously a process issue to an extent, but there is only so much time I want to spend messing about with this stuff, and if an IDE doesn't have me fighting admin rights every minute, I'll go with that one.
  - meditative 6y ago
    that was the primary driver to me moving full time into a linux VM for work. The corporate crap and antivirus made my overpowered laptop really slow. I then moved to booting with an external Samsung T5 SSD drive straight into Linux and running Windows in VMs. I still need the primary Windows for when I need to join the domain.
  - user5994461 6y ago
    I used Visual Studio extensively for Python development and occasional debugging of C#, it never once asked for admin privileges. Wouldn't be surprised if there are issues with older versions though like VS2010 or before.
    - mellosouls 6y ago
      VSCode, not VS - I used the user version, which didn't require admin privileges but as soon as I started trying to install libraries (e.g. Pandas etc), no dice. Some environments may vary - but like I said, time is limited, no issues with Pycharm.

winrid 6y ago

That's because IntelliJ is creating an (I think) inverted index and dependency graph of your project for code completion/Intellisense and it uses multiple CPU cores to do this as fast as possible. VSC won't do this to the same extent. Inverted indexes are slow to create, but fast to query.

exikyut 6y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_index https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inverted_index: There are two main variants of inverted indexes: A record-level inverted index (or inverted file index or just inverted file) contains a list of references to documents for each word. A word-level inverted index (or full inverted index or inverted list) additionally contains the positions of each word within a document. TL;DR, for every (key)word, list its file and position. A smart IDE implementation would also need to take file rename and move into account, and translate byte positions to line numbers for quick jump-to-file.