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40% of vaccine recipients experienced fever after administration. I'm not sure people would rush to take the vaccine with those odds, if only a few months of i

by nugget 6y ago

40% of vaccine recipients experienced fever after administration. I'm not sure people would rush to take the vaccine with those odds, if only a few months of immunity is conveyed. There's a psychological element to this beyond whatever the science shows.

raxxorrax 6y ago
Vaccines aren't completely harmless, but this would be expected. You can do a self test with a flu vaccine. Your doctor probably will recommend no exhausting activities for a few days after taking the shot. If you, for science, ignore that advice, you might feel quite horrible.
- geerlingguy 6y ago
  Every time I get the flu shot it feels like someone punched me hard on the shoulder where it was administered for a couple days, and I feel generally unwell (but not 'bad' per-se). But the alternative is I could end up in the ICU with pneumonia without it (and have, in the past, from the flu), so the risk/annoyance is worth it.
  - raxxorrax 6y ago
    Perhaps I should rephrase it, didn't want to make it sound like getting vaccinated is a bad idea. It does activate your immune system though and that can make you feel really unwell. Fever is not a disease, it is an immune response. But those can still induce complications. Doctors won't administer a shot if you already have pneumonia for these reasons.
  - amyjess 6y ago
    My experience with DTP shots is that one of my arms is a useless-but-painful dead weight for a week or so. I'd still take that over getting tetanus.
  - biolurker1 6y ago
    I felt absolutely nothing.
- y-c-o-m-b 6y ago
  Does that actually happen to people? I thought it wasn't too common. My family gets this warning every year when we get our shots, but we never experience any of those effects. My kids complain about the arm pain, but even I don't get that part of it. Nothing changes for me after getting the flu vaccine (other than the protection of course). Just to be clear I do HIIT, strength training, and (my favorite) lots of yard work regularly and the flu vaccine doesn't interfere with any of that.
  - mennis16 6y ago
    I've never heard the exhausting activities warning, but I do get mild flu-like symptoms for a few days (low grade fever, some fatigue, congestion) after the flu shot most years. I don't know how common it is to experience this, as I would say I have a subpar immune system (frequently sick as a kid, history of food allergies, etc.). But when I've discussed it with doctors they do say my reaction is unsurprising, however the benefits outweigh the "costs".
  - raxxorrax 6y ago
    Oh, yes, I have seen that very often. Symptoms are nearly the same as getting the flu. The type of vaccine, live or inactivated, is relevant though, but it can happen with both. Your immune system is weakened for a time until you have produced. Moderate training is no problem though, perhaps even helpful, but exhausting yourself can lead to problems.
- 0xffff2 6y ago
  I used to administer flu shots as an Army medic back in the day. I don't recall ever receiving or giving this warning.
  - koheripbal 6y ago
    Kids especially frequently get fever after vaccines. It's very common.
- yread 6y ago
  I'm a generally healthy 30-something and I always get a reaction from a flu shot - fever, swollen lymph node, pain
  - FriendlyNormie 6y ago
    And yet you keep getting the shot. How does it feel to be a retard?
- loeg 6y ago
  The worst I've gotten from a flu shot is mild muscle discomfort at the injection site for the first 24h.
sjm-lbm 6y ago
I feel like the psychological element goes the other way, at least for me. In January, this would have felt like a terrible deal. Right now, it feels like you're telling me that - should I socially isolate for a few weeks a year after vaccine shots - I can largely go back to living a normal life. That feels great.
- taneq 6y ago
  Why would isolation be required after taking the vaccine? You should be able to resume normal life as soon as you’re well enough, right?
  - sjm-lbm 6y ago
    Fair. I think that the "sick with Covid == stay at home" link is strong enough in my brain I'm just assuming you'd want to stay home with even the vaccine, but that's not something really based in scientific fact.
  - loeg 6y ago
    Couldn't you have gotten the disease shortly before vaccination and potentially be contagious for some period afterwards?
- FriendlyNormie 6y ago
  You belong in a woodchipper.
lbeltrame 6y ago
The most significant safety issues with this vaccine specifically regard the 250ug dose, which was not used in Phase 2 and won't be used in Phase 3. As long as it's not a Grade 3 fever, I don't see a problem: many vaccines can cause (transient) fevers. (Part of that is due to the adjuvants used to prime the immune system by causing a localized inflammation). I got a shot for the yellow fever a few years ago and I felt quite bad for a couple of days. When I was asked for a booster shot for measles, I was warned of the possibility of developing fever for a couple of days as well.
- koheripbal 6y ago
  Similarly, children very often get fevers after some of their first vaccines. It's no big deal.
war1025 6y ago
Any time you take your kids to get immunized they tell you the spiel about "Expect xoreness and swelling at the site, fever up to xxx for three days. If it lasts longer we need to see them back" Discomfort is totally expected with vaccines.

by nugget 6y ago

raxxorrax 6y ago

Vaccines aren't completely harmless, but this would be expected. You can do a self test with a flu vaccine. Your doctor probably will recommend no exhausting activities for a few days after taking the shot. If you, for science, ignore that advice, you might feel quite horrible.

geerlingguy 6y ago
Every time I get the flu shot it feels like someone punched me hard on the shoulder where it was administered for a couple days, and I feel generally unwell (but not 'bad' per-se). But the alternative is I could end up in the ICU with pneumonia without it (and have, in the past, from the flu), so the risk/annoyance is worth it.
- raxxorrax 6y ago
  Perhaps I should rephrase it, didn't want to make it sound like getting vaccinated is a bad idea. It does activate your immune system though and that can make you feel really unwell. Fever is not a disease, it is an immune response. But those can still induce complications. Doctors won't administer a shot if you already have pneumonia for these reasons.
- amyjess 6y ago
  My experience with DTP shots is that one of my arms is a useless-but-painful dead weight for a week or so. I'd still take that over getting tetanus.
- biolurker1 6y ago
  I felt absolutely nothing.
y-c-o-m-b 6y ago
Does that actually happen to people? I thought it wasn't too common. My family gets this warning every year when we get our shots, but we never experience any of those effects. My kids complain about the arm pain, but even I don't get that part of it. Nothing changes for me after getting the flu vaccine (other than the protection of course). Just to be clear I do HIIT, strength training, and (my favorite) lots of yard work regularly and the flu vaccine doesn't interfere with any of that.
- mennis16 6y ago
  I've never heard the exhausting activities warning, but I do get mild flu-like symptoms for a few days (low grade fever, some fatigue, congestion) after the flu shot most years. I don't know how common it is to experience this, as I would say I have a subpar immune system (frequently sick as a kid, history of food allergies, etc.). But when I've discussed it with doctors they do say my reaction is unsurprising, however the benefits outweigh the "costs".
- raxxorrax 6y ago
  Oh, yes, I have seen that very often. Symptoms are nearly the same as getting the flu. The type of vaccine, live or inactivated, is relevant though, but it can happen with both. Your immune system is weakened for a time until you have produced. Moderate training is no problem though, perhaps even helpful, but exhausting yourself can lead to problems.
0xffff2 6y ago
I used to administer flu shots as an Army medic back in the day. I don't recall ever receiving or giving this warning.
- koheripbal 6y ago
  Kids especially frequently get fever after vaccines. It's very common.
yread 6y ago
I'm a generally healthy 30-something and I always get a reaction from a flu shot - fever, swollen lymph node, pain
- FriendlyNormie 6y ago
  And yet you keep getting the shot. How does it feel to be a retard?
loeg 6y ago
The worst I've gotten from a flu shot is mild muscle discomfort at the injection site for the first 24h.

sjm-lbm 6y ago

I feel like the psychological element goes the other way, at least for me. In January, this would have felt like a terrible deal. Right now, it feels like you're telling me that - should I socially isolate for a few weeks a year after vaccine shots - I can largely go back to living a normal life. That feels great.

taneq 6y ago
Why would isolation be required after taking the vaccine? You should be able to resume normal life as soon as you’re well enough, right?
- sjm-lbm 6y ago
  Fair. I think that the "sick with Covid == stay at home" link is strong enough in my brain I'm just assuming you'd want to stay home with even the vaccine, but that's not something really based in scientific fact.
- loeg 6y ago
  Couldn't you have gotten the disease shortly before vaccination and potentially be contagious for some period afterwards?
FriendlyNormie 6y ago
You belong in a woodchipper.

lbeltrame 6y ago

The most significant safety issues with this vaccine specifically regard the 250ug dose, which was not used in Phase 2 and won't be used in Phase 3. As long as it's not a Grade 3 fever, I don't see a problem: many vaccines can cause (transient) fevers. (Part of that is due to the adjuvants used to prime the immune system by causing a localized inflammation). I got a shot for the yellow fever a few years ago and I felt quite bad for a couple of days. When I was asked for a booster shot for measles, I was warned of the possibility of developing fever for a couple of days as well.

koheripbal 6y ago
Similarly, children very often get fevers after some of their first vaccines. It's no big deal.

war1025 6y ago

Any time you take your kids to get immunized they tell you the spiel about "Expect xoreness and swelling at the site, fever up to xxx for three days. If it lasts longer we need to see them back" Discomfort is totally expected with vaccines.