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I Hope This Bubble Kills The App

160 points by acconrad 16y ago

acconrad 16y ago
DISCLAIMER: for the record, this is a rant I wrote at 3 am so please don't take it too seriously. I'm mostly sharing it so you can have a good laugh, because apparently a few people thought it was funny and said I should share it.
- cgrusden 16y ago
  Haha, I laughed so hard I pee'd a lil. This is something that keeps me up at night. It gives me anxiety to think that more and more useless apps are not only being developed, but funded. What the fuck. The thing is, building something today that solves a problem, isn't going to make you a "rockstar" if it's not sexy and social :(
  - rewind 16y ago
    I'd rather be a rich nobody than a poor rockstar. If you keep solving real problems, I'm sure you'll be fine.
- emilis_info 16y ago
  Your post inspired me. Thank you. I didn't expect much at first from the title and from the rant part.
thetrumanshow 16y ago
Ahem: http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/... :) Just sayin'. But, to your point, yes I would welcome a world where all the ultra low-fi junk would disappear and where there was less noise in the app marketplace... like 2003, except with today's consumer awareness. But the exact opposite will happen. Right now, our peers are building tools to allow ever lower-fidelity apps to enter the marketplace, that is, enabling less and less qualified people to try their hand at building products. I have yet to find the saving grace in this situation. I see two paths: 1) create tools to help people build crap apps, and make money while I can, 2) move up the value chain, and make money while I can.
- acconrad 16y ago
  Ha loved that article. As long as you're in caloric deficit, you will lose weight :-p
  - billybob 16y ago
    True, but you could die of scurvey.
    - adrianN 16y ago
      It was actually a Twinkie+Multivitamin diet.
- jpadvo 16y ago
  Personally, I think democratizing technology is a really, really good thing. Sure, we have to suffer through things like Comic Sans abuse and crappy apps, but that is a minuscule price to pay for increasing the creative freedom of humanity. That's fundamentally why we build new tools -- to increase the freedom of people to impact the world. [Edit: Just read the article you linked. Losing 27 pounds by eating twinkies? Priceless. :) ]
  - thetrumanshow 16y ago
    You have taken the high ground sir. Therefore, I surrender. :)
  - kragen 16y ago
    App stores do not democratize technology. App stores limit access to technology to Officially Approved Developers who don't piss off the platform owner.
    - moxiemk1 16y ago
      Democratizing technology isn't fundamentally about Freedom and Openness and Fairness. It's about making technology useable by everyday people. You can do that by making everyone an engineer, or by placing arbitrary limits that increase the likelihood of people using the thing, or any number of ways. Limiting access to technology can absolutely democratize it.
aspir 16y ago
My thoughts exactly. Doesn't anyone want to innovate, or "change the world" anymore? If someone's going to go through all of the labor to make a copy of groupon or an iFart app or a twitter API mashup just for the cash, they should just write a Forex trading algorithm. They'll make more money that way, and their models will be infinitely more computationally unique than any consumer copycat.
- praptak 16y ago
  "If someone's going to go through all of the labor to make a copy of groupon or an iFart app or a twitter API mashup just for the cash, they should just write a Forex trading algorithm." You mean writing one that makes money? That's infinitely harder than the examples you provided. Quite a lot of smart guys put nontrivial effort into that. You need to be as good as them, preferably even a little better. Good luck.
  - borism 16y ago
    Smart guys don't trade Forex.
- dstein 16y ago
  A location-based fart app that leverages the social graph of my friends? Call Sequoia!
  - andrewflnr 16y ago
    "Find out who's farting near you!"
- wladimir 16y ago
  So writing Forex trading algorithms, according to you, will innovate to "change the world"? How? A common critic to the financial sector is that their "innovation" helps only to get themselves rich. A lot of real innovation still happens in semiconductors, medical, energy. I think that's a better contrast to the 'bullshit app' hype.
gte910h 16y ago
The idea that small useful programs should die and not be sold is a sad idea IMO. And app is not necessarily a business, but it isn't something that should die.
- acconrad 16y ago
  Except you said "useful." I'm all for that. But you should keep building them. Just cause a company builds a useful application does not mean they should close up shop and start elsewhere with a new name.
Cherian_Abraham 16y ago
So does that mean that people should stop working on the problem domain that is "social and sharing" ? I would say, not quite. But the "Me too" herd mentality is not helping, not just in terms of the amount of capital that is thrown at it, but talent that could have been better spent elsewhere now toils away in making another Groupon clone because he has tunnel vision. We are working in the domain of contextual discovery and there are a number of juicy problems right there. Determining what is useful to you so that we can deliver that alone, based on where you are, why you are there and who you are with. Thats a meaty problem to solve. One of them, at least.
- acconrad 16y ago
  I never said that. I said that there are real problems worth solving, and not all of them are in the social space. There is still plenty of value to be added to the social landscape, just don't forget the domains that aren't the bees knees at the moment.
deveren 16y ago
This is the exact problem companies wishing to develop useful programs face everyday. Now we have a consumer base that only buys because of hype/something going "viral". If you do create something beneficial one of the only ways to be noticed is to treat what you develop as one if those "candy" apps. The words software, and programs have disappeared. It's still a bit of a gold rush, and investors mean well. However, there needs to be more innovative thinking on their end as well. We don't need a new photo sharing program, or ways to post a picture online. It's funny that this article uses weightless angle be because all of this technology has made us, well bigger. Technology is great, but it's time we get back to solving real problems. BTW, I'm looking for an excellent programmer for a new project!
api 16y ago
"...Ninja Warrior Agile ScrumMaster and Incompetent MBA Popped Collar..." Epic.
- jacoblyles 16y ago
  Not really. Just stringing together buzzwords that irritate engineers. Variants of this kind of stuff have been around forever.
  - borism 16y ago
    That's why it's epic.
- cppsnob 16y ago
  The full quote is better "So this cluster fuck of apps has become so diluted in human value and so inflated in capital value that Ninja Warrior Agile ScrumMaster and Incompetent MBA Popped Collar actually have a decent chance of landing on the front page of TechCrunch with a title something to the effect of “Man Takes a Dump on an Android Phone: Sand Hill Road Calls First Dibs for $22M”"
sabat 16y ago
There is no stock market bubble. News flash: coupons are still boring and I don’t want to give out my email address to a service I don’t even know I’ll benefit from. So now we have an App Store that serves nothing but candy, and we all love candy don’t we? The OP is not the intended audience for most/all of the apps he's talking about. I don't think he understands that. There are apps and companies that seem to be absolutely superfluous -- how many Groupon clones do we need? (Do we even really need Groupon?) But the market will decide that. Not us nerds.
- borism 16y ago
  There is no stock market bubble. nobody said there was a stock market bubble. but I suggest you to check few graphs on Google/Yahoo Finance. But the market will decide that. Not us nerds. I hope us nerds are a little bit more aware about stuff going on than Mr. Market.
  - sabat 16y ago
    nobody said there was a stock market bubble That's what the word "bubble" refers to, though. If the OP didn't mean a stock market bubble, he should explain what he does mean. A "bubble" of investing? Why would it warrant the analogy of a bubble? What horrible things happen if and when VC investments don't pan out? What people are trying to call a bubble is actually just an increase in investment by VCs, sometimes good investments, sometimes bad, and sometimes there are overvaluations. But if you think we're in a bubble, you either don't remember the real bubble of 1999 or you misunderstood what the problem was. I suggest you to check few graphs on Google/Yahoo Finance Considering the deep trough we just came out of, it makes sense that we see a stock market uptick. Moving up != inherently bad.
    - borism 16y ago
      That's what the word "bubble" refers to, though why? not at all. last spectacular bubble was in real estate - it was accompanied by stock market rise but not by any means stock market bubble.
klochner 16y ago
Without twinkie apps he wouldn't have a hipster 8-bit twitter profile pic: https://twitter.com/adam_conrad https://twitter.com/adam_conrad
- acconrad 16y ago
  Oh noes, fallibility in my logic! How could I have not checked myself before I wrecked myself! I should probably just close down my Posterous account right now and save face. Never again will I indulge in anything less than pure, unadulterated value. FFFUUUUU! EDIT: I thought it was funny. I would totally call me out too haha. Ah man, totally ruins my cred, you know, cause I had some to begin with :-p
  - klochner 16y ago
    Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Please come correct next time. (I did appreciate "Incompetent MBA Popped Collar") [edit] he really doesn't deserve negative karma for that, chill out people.
JabavuAdams 16y ago
Incoherent drivel. I hope this bubble kills the content-free vanity blog post / spam. Seriously, just don't write this crap. It's no good.
- acconrad 16y ago
  Not only did you fail to read my disclaimer, but according to your profile you make iPhone games. I guess I cut to the core of you, Baxter.
  - JabavuAdams 16y ago
    Not at all. If you feel that you need a disclaimer, why not improve the post to the point where you don't need a disclaimer, before inflicting it on HN? It's one thing to rant to friends over a beer, but at least try to go through a few drafts or reviewers before inflicting such nonsense on the internet, permanently. Maybe try to address the first level of obvious criticism? Re: me ... I have 0 dollars in outside funding, and some number of users who like my work. Unless you're saying that games are ipso facto useless, I'm not sure how this is relevant.
  - JabavuAdams 16y ago
    Here are a few obvious criticisms: 1) "Change the world" is a red-herring. There's a lot of very valuable and helpful work that people with a "change the world" focus will miss out on. A lot of people writing craplications believe they will change the world. It's a content-free sound-bite at this point. It doesn't translate into any world-changing behaviour. 2) The value of a thing has very little to do with how hard it is to make. This is a common trap that techies fall into: I worked really hard and didn't get rewarded while someone else spent a few hours and did get rewarded. 2b) If you're going to argue that we're incentivizing the wrong behaviours, well, that's an interesting argument that you didn't explore. 3) Unintentionally, your rant is analogous to the very apps you're criticizing. I.e. it seems you just kind of pooped it out. You apologize for pooping it out, but you don't do the things that could turn it into an insightful or useful article. Just as various app stores are saturated with crap, news sites are saturated with random half-assed comments that would be funny over beer, but just clog the internets.
mraybman 16y ago
Great read, but I think that if the VCs can resist the temptation of investing too much too early there does exist a positive outcome. We might just see feature development moving away from teams in big companies into smaller, independent teams. These will raise small amounts of money from angels and micro-VC's and get bought out en masse for mild sums by companies looking to add features and products.
kragen 16y ago
Did the last bubble kill the website? I mean, I remember when a website was something a company had, not something a company was. The trend toward per-project companies is, I think, fundamentally a good one. It means less job security, but more creative freedom, and probably more money going to the creators and less to managers.
- Stormbringer 16y ago
  The job security is an illusion anyway.
fleitz 16y ago
Uh... speaking of being the next Mark Zuckerberg have you heard of Facemash? It's exactly the kind of crap the lean startup movement is trying to foster. That's exactly the idea, that any idiot can make a website, scrape some content and become a billionaire. Yes, today Facebook has scaling issues but seriously any idiot with a book on PHP could make the original Facebook (the tech side, Facebook is all about execution and not tech). Regarding companies being the app, have you heard of Microsoft, Oracle or SAP? Ok, granted Microsoft has two apps Windows AND Office, but why do you think Microsoft started branding everything Windows? All those companies are built off of a single 'app'. Microsoft = DOS then Windows Oracle = Oracle DB SAP = SAP One company who embodies the one app.
peter78 16y ago
Meh. Apple first tried to push developers to the web. It was because of the hacking community that apps got popular and they opened up the iPhone OS (now iOS). Mobile apps are great for small and quick functional tasks. It's not a great interface to do incredibly complicated actions unless they can be done at the press of a button, minimal typing or by a swipe. I agree there's a lot of crud out there but I'd like to see where Adam Conrad has solved world hunger, ended climate change or stopped wars. He calls everyone else out. Where's his contribution to solving HUGE problems? :) I think small apps by small teams have to start from somewhere. However, we probably don't need any more fart or lighter apps.
- acconrad 16y ago
  I'm 25...Einstein didn't publish his theory of relativity until he was 26. Give me a year...but seriously, I'm trying. I may not be mother Teresa, but I volunteer at shelters and I've donated a fair amount to the acs and relay for life. And I know my blood was uses to save someone's life. Baby steps. Change one life at a time. Rome wasn't built in a day, but I'm pretty sure ifart was (zing)
  - peter78 16y ago
    At 25 Zuckerberg was a billionaire. ;P
    - danssig 16y ago
      Not really, but ok.
- bad_user 16y ago
  Apple first tried to push developers to the web That's kind of bullshit when Mobile Safari doesn't support such basic functionality as uploading photos you've made from your phone to websites. A far more likely scenario -- Apple wasn't sure they want third-party apps (web or not) on their platform. After all, the iPod did quite well without apps, or a browser.
lwhi 16y ago
I agree with some of this article, even though it seems it's fairly tongue-in-cheek. The problem isn't accessibility - the problem is (mindless) venture capital. There are people with money (and low wisdom / experience) who have learnt that you can invest in tech and make a huge return - in some cases, this has taken the focus away from creating sustainable and useful businesses. Perhaps hackers are simply the cogs in the wheels of modern finance?
mindball 16y ago
but wait I thought apps were all the rage? :s http://mashable.com/2011/03/23/mobile-by-the-numbers-infogrpahic http://mashable.com/2011/03/23/mobile-by-the-numbers-infogrp...
zmonkeyz 16y ago
Don't blame Apple for the app. Originally they wanted people to develop web apps and not software that runs on the phone. The people demanded it and they went with it.
dakrisht 16y ago
Great read

160 points by acconrad 16y ago

DISCLAIMER: for the record, this is a rant I wrote at 3 am so please don't take it too seriously. I'm mostly sharing it so you can have a good laugh, because apparently a few people thought it was funny and said I should share it.

cgrusden 16y ago
Haha, I laughed so hard I pee'd a lil. This is something that keeps me up at night. It gives me anxiety to think that more and more useless apps are not only being developed, but funded. What the fuck. The thing is, building something today that solves a problem, isn't going to make you a "rockstar" if it's not sexy and social :(
- rewind 16y ago
  I'd rather be a rich nobody than a poor rockstar. If you keep solving real problems, I'm sure you'll be fine.
emilis_info 16y ago
Your post inspired me. Thank you. I didn't expect much at first from the title and from the rant part.

thetrumanshow 16y ago

Ahem: http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/... :) Just sayin'. But, to your point, yes I would welcome a world where all the ultra low-fi junk would disappear and where there was less noise in the app marketplace... like 2003, except with today's consumer awareness. But the exact opposite will happen. Right now, our peers are building tools to allow ever lower-fidelity apps to enter the marketplace, that is, enabling less and less qualified people to try their hand at building products. I have yet to find the saving grace in this situation. I see two paths: 1) create tools to help people build crap apps, and make money while I can, 2) move up the value chain, and make money while I can.

acconrad 16y ago
Ha loved that article. As long as you're in caloric deficit, you will lose weight :-p
- billybob 16y ago
  True, but you could die of scurvey.
  - adrianN 16y ago
    It was actually a Twinkie+Multivitamin diet.
jpadvo 16y ago
Personally, I think democratizing technology is a really, really good thing. Sure, we have to suffer through things like Comic Sans abuse and crappy apps, but that is a minuscule price to pay for increasing the creative freedom of humanity. That's fundamentally why we build new tools -- to increase the freedom of people to impact the world. [Edit: Just read the article you linked. Losing 27 pounds by eating twinkies? Priceless. :) ]
- thetrumanshow 16y ago
  You have taken the high ground sir. Therefore, I surrender. :)
- kragen 16y ago
  App stores do not democratize technology. App stores limit access to technology to Officially Approved Developers who don't piss off the platform owner.
  - moxiemk1 16y ago
    Democratizing technology isn't fundamentally about Freedom and Openness and Fairness. It's about making technology useable by everyday people. You can do that by making everyone an engineer, or by placing arbitrary limits that increase the likelihood of people using the thing, or any number of ways. Limiting access to technology can absolutely democratize it.

aspir 16y ago

My thoughts exactly. Doesn't anyone want to innovate, or "change the world" anymore? If someone's going to go through all of the labor to make a copy of groupon or an iFart app or a twitter API mashup just for the cash, they should just write a Forex trading algorithm. They'll make more money that way, and their models will be infinitely more computationally unique than any consumer copycat.

praptak 16y ago
"If someone's going to go through all of the labor to make a copy of groupon or an iFart app or a twitter API mashup just for the cash, they should just write a Forex trading algorithm." You mean writing one that makes money? That's infinitely harder than the examples you provided. Quite a lot of smart guys put nontrivial effort into that. You need to be as good as them, preferably even a little better. Good luck.
- borism 16y ago
  Smart guys don't trade Forex.
dstein 16y ago
A location-based fart app that leverages the social graph of my friends? Call Sequoia!
- andrewflnr 16y ago
  "Find out who's farting near you!"
wladimir 16y ago
So writing Forex trading algorithms, according to you, will innovate to "change the world"? How? A common critic to the financial sector is that their "innovation" helps only to get themselves rich. A lot of real innovation still happens in semiconductors, medical, energy. I think that's a better contrast to the 'bullshit app' hype.

gte910h 16y ago

The idea that small useful programs should die and not be sold is a sad idea IMO. And app is not necessarily a business, but it isn't something that should die.

acconrad 16y ago
Except you said "useful." I'm all for that. But you should keep building them. Just cause a company builds a useful application does not mean they should close up shop and start elsewhere with a new name.

Cherian_Abraham 16y ago

So does that mean that people should stop working on the problem domain that is "social and sharing" ? I would say, not quite. But the "Me too" herd mentality is not helping, not just in terms of the amount of capital that is thrown at it, but talent that could have been better spent elsewhere now toils away in making another Groupon clone because he has tunnel vision. We are working in the domain of contextual discovery and there are a number of juicy problems right there. Determining what is useful to you so that we can deliver that alone, based on where you are, why you are there and who you are with. Thats a meaty problem to solve. One of them, at least.

acconrad 16y ago
I never said that. I said that there are real problems worth solving, and not all of them are in the social space. There is still plenty of value to be added to the social landscape, just don't forget the domains that aren't the bees knees at the moment.

deveren 16y ago

This is the exact problem companies wishing to develop useful programs face everyday. Now we have a consumer base that only buys because of hype/something going "viral". If you do create something beneficial one of the only ways to be noticed is to treat what you develop as one if those "candy" apps. The words software, and programs have disappeared. It's still a bit of a gold rush, and investors mean well. However, there needs to be more innovative thinking on their end as well. We don't need a new photo sharing program, or ways to post a picture online. It's funny that this article uses weightless angle be because all of this technology has made us, well bigger. Technology is great, but it's time we get back to solving real problems. BTW, I'm looking for an excellent programmer for a new project!

api 16y ago

"...Ninja Warrior Agile ScrumMaster and Incompetent MBA Popped Collar..." Epic.

jacoblyles 16y ago
Not really. Just stringing together buzzwords that irritate engineers. Variants of this kind of stuff have been around forever.
- borism 16y ago
  That's why it's epic.
cppsnob 16y ago
The full quote is better "So this cluster fuck of apps has become so diluted in human value and so inflated in capital value that Ninja Warrior Agile ScrumMaster and Incompetent MBA Popped Collar actually have a decent chance of landing on the front page of TechCrunch with a title something to the effect of “Man Takes a Dump on an Android Phone: Sand Hill Road Calls First Dibs for $22M”"

sabat 16y ago

There is no stock market bubble. News flash: coupons are still boring and I don’t want to give out my email address to a service I don’t even know I’ll benefit from. So now we have an App Store that serves nothing but candy, and we all love candy don’t we? The OP is not the intended audience for most/all of the apps he's talking about. I don't think he understands that. There are apps and companies that seem to be absolutely superfluous -- how many Groupon clones do we need? (Do we even really need Groupon?) But the market will decide that. Not us nerds.

borism 16y ago
There is no stock market bubble. nobody said there was a stock market bubble. but I suggest you to check few graphs on Google/Yahoo Finance. But the market will decide that. Not us nerds. I hope us nerds are a little bit more aware about stuff going on than Mr. Market.
- sabat 16y ago
  nobody said there was a stock market bubble That's what the word "bubble" refers to, though. If the OP didn't mean a stock market bubble, he should explain what he does mean. A "bubble" of investing? Why would it warrant the analogy of a bubble? What horrible things happen if and when VC investments don't pan out? What people are trying to call a bubble is actually just an increase in investment by VCs, sometimes good investments, sometimes bad, and sometimes there are overvaluations. But if you think we're in a bubble, you either don't remember the real bubble of 1999 or you misunderstood what the problem was. I suggest you to check few graphs on Google/Yahoo Finance Considering the deep trough we just came out of, it makes sense that we see a stock market uptick. Moving up != inherently bad.
  - borism 16y ago
    That's what the word "bubble" refers to, though why? not at all. last spectacular bubble was in real estate - it was accompanied by stock market rise but not by any means stock market bubble.

klochner 16y ago

Without twinkie apps he wouldn't have a hipster 8-bit twitter profile pic: https://twitter.com/adam_conrad https://twitter.com/adam_conrad

acconrad 16y ago
Oh noes, fallibility in my logic! How could I have not checked myself before I wrecked myself! I should probably just close down my Posterous account right now and save face. Never again will I indulge in anything less than pure, unadulterated value. FFFUUUUU! EDIT: I thought it was funny. I would totally call me out too haha. Ah man, totally ruins my cred, you know, cause I had some to begin with :-p
- klochner 16y ago
  Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Please come correct next time. (I did appreciate "Incompetent MBA Popped Collar") [edit] he really doesn't deserve negative karma for that, chill out people.

JabavuAdams 16y ago

Incoherent drivel. I hope this bubble kills the content-free vanity blog post / spam. Seriously, just don't write this crap. It's no good.

acconrad 16y ago
Not only did you fail to read my disclaimer, but according to your profile you make iPhone games. I guess I cut to the core of you, Baxter.
- JabavuAdams 16y ago
  Not at all. If you feel that you need a disclaimer, why not improve the post to the point where you don't need a disclaimer, before inflicting it on HN? It's one thing to rant to friends over a beer, but at least try to go through a few drafts or reviewers before inflicting such nonsense on the internet, permanently. Maybe try to address the first level of obvious criticism? Re: me ... I have 0 dollars in outside funding, and some number of users who like my work. Unless you're saying that games are ipso facto useless, I'm not sure how this is relevant.
- JabavuAdams 16y ago
  Here are a few obvious criticisms: 1) "Change the world" is a red-herring. There's a lot of very valuable and helpful work that people with a "change the world" focus will miss out on. A lot of people writing craplications believe they will change the world. It's a content-free sound-bite at this point. It doesn't translate into any world-changing behaviour. 2) The value of a thing has very little to do with how hard it is to make. This is a common trap that techies fall into: I worked really hard and didn't get rewarded while someone else spent a few hours and did get rewarded. 2b) If you're going to argue that we're incentivizing the wrong behaviours, well, that's an interesting argument that you didn't explore. 3) Unintentionally, your rant is analogous to the very apps you're criticizing. I.e. it seems you just kind of pooped it out. You apologize for pooping it out, but you don't do the things that could turn it into an insightful or useful article. Just as various app stores are saturated with crap, news sites are saturated with random half-assed comments that would be funny over beer, but just clog the internets.

mraybman 16y ago

Great read, but I think that if the VCs can resist the temptation of investing too much too early there does exist a positive outcome. We might just see feature development moving away from teams in big companies into smaller, independent teams. These will raise small amounts of money from angels and micro-VC's and get bought out en masse for mild sums by companies looking to add features and products.

kragen 16y ago

Did the last bubble kill the website? I mean, I remember when a website was something a company had, not something a company was. The trend toward per-project companies is, I think, fundamentally a good one. It means less job security, but more creative freedom, and probably more money going to the creators and less to managers.

Stormbringer 16y ago
The job security is an illusion anyway.

fleitz 16y ago

Uh... speaking of being the next Mark Zuckerberg have you heard of Facemash? It's exactly the kind of crap the lean startup movement is trying to foster. That's exactly the idea, that any idiot can make a website, scrape some content and become a billionaire. Yes, today Facebook has scaling issues but seriously any idiot with a book on PHP could make the original Facebook (the tech side, Facebook is all about execution and not tech). Regarding companies being the app, have you heard of Microsoft, Oracle or SAP? Ok, granted Microsoft has two apps Windows AND Office, but why do you think Microsoft started branding everything Windows? All those companies are built off of a single 'app'. Microsoft = DOS then Windows Oracle = Oracle DB SAP = SAP One company who embodies the one app.

peter78 16y ago

Meh. Apple first tried to push developers to the web. It was because of the hacking community that apps got popular and they opened up the iPhone OS (now iOS). Mobile apps are great for small and quick functional tasks. It's not a great interface to do incredibly complicated actions unless they can be done at the press of a button, minimal typing or by a swipe. I agree there's a lot of crud out there but I'd like to see where Adam Conrad has solved world hunger, ended climate change or stopped wars. He calls everyone else out. Where's his contribution to solving HUGE problems? :) I think small apps by small teams have to start from somewhere. However, we probably don't need any more fart or lighter apps.

acconrad 16y ago
I'm 25...Einstein didn't publish his theory of relativity until he was 26. Give me a year...but seriously, I'm trying. I may not be mother Teresa, but I volunteer at shelters and I've donated a fair amount to the acs and relay for life. And I know my blood was uses to save someone's life. Baby steps. Change one life at a time. Rome wasn't built in a day, but I'm pretty sure ifart was (zing)
- peter78 16y ago
  At 25 Zuckerberg was a billionaire. ;P
  - danssig 16y ago
    Not really, but ok.
bad_user 16y ago
Apple first tried to push developers to the web That's kind of bullshit when Mobile Safari doesn't support such basic functionality as uploading photos you've made from your phone to websites. A far more likely scenario -- Apple wasn't sure they want third-party apps (web or not) on their platform. After all, the iPod did quite well without apps, or a browser.

lwhi 16y ago

I agree with some of this article, even though it seems it's fairly tongue-in-cheek. The problem isn't accessibility - the problem is (mindless) venture capital. There are people with money (and low wisdom / experience) who have learnt that you can invest in tech and make a huge return - in some cases, this has taken the focus away from creating sustainable and useful businesses. Perhaps hackers are simply the cogs in the wheels of modern finance?

mindball 16y ago

but wait I thought apps were all the rage? :s http://mashable.com/2011/03/23/mobile-by-the-numbers-infogrpahic http://mashable.com/2011/03/23/mobile-by-the-numbers-infogrp...

zmonkeyz 16y ago

Don't blame Apple for the app. Originally they wanted people to develop web apps and not software that runs on the phone. The people demanded it and they went with it.

dakrisht 16y ago

Great read