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The US is not a dependable partner anymore. Not on the international political stage nor on the personal stage.

by ulfw 6y ago

VWWHFSfQ 6y ago
is there a country that educates more international students than usa
- ulfw 6y ago
  No. But that‘s the point. International students have no good reason to come to the US anymore when they can be kicked out at any second, won‘t get a visa for finding a job after an education that doubles in cost every couple of years. Btw you‘d be surprised how countries way way way smaller than the US have sizeable international student populations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_student#Destinations_of_foreign_students https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_student#Destinat...
  - VWWHFSfQ 6y ago
    > when they can be kicked out at any second do you think that they really are just being flippantly "kicked out at any second"? or do you think it is because it's 2020 and the country is being ravaged by a highly contagious virus and every single american college campus is closed. Where are these students supposed to live? The dormitories are closed. How many college towns have enough available housing for 30,000+ displaced students. You know the American kids have to go home too.
    - kerneltime 6y ago
      Your comment does not make any sense.. there is a difference in choosing where you will be while attending college vs. being required to leave the country. Many students do not avail of dorms post freshman year.
    - ulfw 6y ago
      And yet, if they DO have a place to live, why are they still forced to leave the country and forced to travel during a pandemic?
    - newen 6y ago
      A lot of students live in typical apartment complexes.
  - koheripbal 6y ago
    A global pandemic doesn't sound like "any reason".
- closeparen 6y ago
  There's about to be.
RcouF1uZ4gsC 6y ago
Is there a country that is a more dependable country and that has the means to project power and influence around the world? China? If we are worried about the US becoming "America first", I think China is even more nationalistic than the US and looks through a prism of does this benefit China. India? Has no interest in foreign adventures. Especially under Modi, has become more nationalistic Russia? See Ukraine. Japan? Prevented by its constitution from foreign adventures UK? Brexit France? Actually, partially exited NATO decades ago. Very nationalistic. Germany? Doesn't have much ability to project power. Depends on Russia for vital natural gas.
- peteretep 6y ago
  > UK? Brexit As anti Brexit as I am, how has this made the UK an unreliable partner?
  - wrsh07 6y ago
    If you were expecting to be able to travel freely within Europe for a new job, aren't you in trouble?
    - peteretep 6y ago
      Sure, but this seems to be a question about the projection of power, given the examples.
- eru 6y ago
  > Is there a country that is a more dependable country and that has the means to project power and influence around the world? What's the purpose of the question? If you are looking for a place to work, live or do business with, the dependability is important, but I couldn't care less about whether eg Switzerland projects any power when making any personal or business decisions. (Now, if I was the head of a country and looking for allies, that would be different. But I doubt many people are in that position.)
  - RcouF1uZ4gsC 6y ago

The US is not a dependable partner anymore. Not on the international political stage nor on the personal stage.

by ulfw 6y ago

The US is not a dependable partner anymore. Not on the international political stage nor on the personal stage.

VWWHFSfQ 6y ago

is there a country that educates more international students than usa

ulfw 6y ago
No. But that‘s the point. International students have no good reason to come to the US anymore when they can be kicked out at any second, won‘t get a visa for finding a job after an education that doubles in cost every couple of years. Btw you‘d be surprised how countries way way way smaller than the US have sizeable international student populations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_student#Destinations_of_foreign_students https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_student#Destinat...
- VWWHFSfQ 6y ago
  > when they can be kicked out at any second do you think that they really are just being flippantly "kicked out at any second"? or do you think it is because it's 2020 and the country is being ravaged by a highly contagious virus and every single american college campus is closed. Where are these students supposed to live? The dormitories are closed. How many college towns have enough available housing for 30,000+ displaced students. You know the American kids have to go home too.
  - kerneltime 6y ago
    Your comment does not make any sense.. there is a difference in choosing where you will be while attending college vs. being required to leave the country. Many students do not avail of dorms post freshman year.
  - ulfw 6y ago
    And yet, if they DO have a place to live, why are they still forced to leave the country and forced to travel during a pandemic?
  - newen 6y ago
    A lot of students live in typical apartment complexes.
- koheripbal 6y ago
  A global pandemic doesn't sound like "any reason".
closeparen 6y ago
There's about to be.

RcouF1uZ4gsC 6y ago

Is there a country that is a more dependable country and that has the means to project power and influence around the world? China? If we are worried about the US becoming "America first", I think China is even more nationalistic than the US and looks through a prism of does this benefit China. India? Has no interest in foreign adventures. Especially under Modi, has become more nationalistic Russia? See Ukraine. Japan? Prevented by its constitution from foreign adventures UK? Brexit France? Actually, partially exited NATO decades ago. Very nationalistic. Germany? Doesn't have much ability to project power. Depends on Russia for vital natural gas.

peteretep 6y ago
> UK? Brexit As anti Brexit as I am, how has this made the UK an unreliable partner?
- wrsh07 6y ago
  If you were expecting to be able to travel freely within Europe for a new job, aren't you in trouble?
  - peteretep 6y ago
    Sure, but this seems to be a question about the projection of power, given the examples.
eru 6y ago
> Is there a country that is a more dependable country and that has the means to project power and influence around the world? What's the purpose of the question? If you are looking for a place to work, live or do business with, the dependability is important, but I couldn't care less about whether eg Switzerland projects any power when making any personal or business decisions. (Now, if I was the head of a country and looking for allies, that would be different. But I doubt many people are in that position.)
- RcouF1uZ4gsC 6y ago