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seedr.cc, bitport.io or zbigz.com exist to solve this problem and would have saved him his job.

by deadalus 6y ago

thomastjeffery 6y ago
He may have already weighed his internship as less valuable than the cost of using such a service.
ceejayoz 6y ago
Or... just don't use work resources to torrent, period.
- Kaze404 6y ago
  That's exactly what the parent comment is suggesting.
- pastage 6y ago
  Piracy has always been rampant at companies, sure now days its too easy to track but in the beginning we only had good piracy bandwidth because so much of it was done on company dollars. With the good eyes of CEOs, sure it was cold hands when they got raided. I never do personal stuff on company time/equipment, just seems stupid. I'm not sure I think it should matter though...
_tbyy 6y ago
Seriously. The idea that it's just fine to pirate everything because you can or have the tech to do it is appalling to see in this community.
- cosmojg 6y ago
  Huh? Why?
  - NortySpock 6y ago
    Because I make my money selling my labor and IP to my company (software engineer, it's in my contract.) If someone stole my IP from me or my company, it would be harder to pay the bills for either me, or my company.
    - enitihas 6y ago
      I think the irony is that someone on HN will jump on this thread saying copyright needs to be abolished, and you didn't lose anything as the user wouldn't have paid for it anyways, with the irony being that a large majority of HN either earns money via tracking ads(which is far worse than any copyright), or works money by writing paid software.
      - lostlogin 6y ago
        > a large majority of HN either earns money via tracking ads Have you ever seen any numbers on HN users jobs? I’m continually surprised by the diverse roles of domain experts that appear in threads. I guess I’m hoping you’re wrong.
      - jrockway 6y ago
        I think a lot of HN readers write software that is hosted somewhere, so the users never see the code. Thus, copyright provides us no protection. (I suppose the ex-employee could always take the code and start their own competing service, so copyright does have some value.)
    - swdev281634 6y ago
      When I was younger, out of curiosity I've downloaded leaked source code of Windows or video games. Got an impression that code is not that useful to an outsider. It can help answering extremely specific questions how a particular small isolated function is implemented. Even ignoring legal issues, it won't significantly help building competing products, let alone building a successful business around such product. When we hire people, they gain access to complete source code, documentation, continuous integration environment, bug tracker, and most importantly to the current developers. It usually takes them months to become productive. With just the source code, would probably take a year even for very smart person.
- epanchin 6y ago
  Thank goodness people did, or we’d still be listening to music on CDs and watching TV on the broadcasters schedule.
- zipwitch 6y ago
  From an 1841 speech to the British House of Commons on the dangers of increased copyright times: At present the holder of copyright has the public feeling on his side. Those who invade copyright are regarded as knaves who take the bread out of the mouths of deserving men. Everybody is well pleased to see them restrained by the law, and compelled to refund their ill-gotten gains. No tradesman of good repute will have anything to do with such disgraceful transactions. Pass this law: and that feeling is at an end. Men very different from the present race of piratical booksellers will soon infringe this intolerable monopoly. Great masses of capital will be constantly employed in the violation of the law. Every art will be employed to evade legal pursuit; and the whole nation will be in the plot… Remember too that, when once it ceases to be considered as wrong and discreditable to invade literary property, no person can say where the invasion will stop. The public seldom makes nice distinctions. The wholesome copyright which now exists will share in the disgrace and danger of the new copyright which you are about to create. Source:https://www.thepublicdomain.org/2014/07/24/macaulay-on-copyright/ https://www.thepublicdomain.org/2014/07/24/macaulay-on-copyr...
- fernandotakai 6y ago
  i pay for amazon prime, youtube premium, hbo max, hulu, netflix and spotify. if i'm downloading something i'm 100% sure the media company that owns the rights is getting my money somehow.
fernandotakai 6y ago
i'm a put.io customer and i swear by them. absolutely great service.
- steelbrain 6y ago
  Ex put.io customer, I downloaded a bunch of media to consume over a flight, except their App would not let me watch already-downloaded videos offline on a plane.
pmarreck 6y ago
bitport is awesome, can vouch
air7 6y ago
how do such services escape the clutches of DMCA? I assume they're used for pirating content.
- Nextgrid 6y ago
  My understanding is that they bank on the fact that takedown operations are relatively slow and starting up from scratch is easy (or even automated), so they fully expect it to get taken down and make as much money as possible in the meantime then rinse and repeat.
- boomboomsubban 6y ago
  They usally aren't in the US, and making an international issue out of them just provides free advertising and sympathy for similar services.

seedr.cc, bitport.io or zbigz.com exist to solve this problem and would have saved him his job.

thomastjeffery 6y ago

He may have already weighed his internship as less valuable than the cost of using such a service.

ceejayoz 6y ago

Or... just don't use work resources to torrent, period.

Kaze404 6y ago
That's exactly what the parent comment is suggesting.
pastage 6y ago
Piracy has always been rampant at companies, sure now days its too easy to track but in the beginning we only had good piracy bandwidth because so much of it was done on company dollars. With the good eyes of CEOs, sure it was cold hands when they got raided. I never do personal stuff on company time/equipment, just seems stupid. I'm not sure I think it should matter though...

_tbyy 6y ago

Seriously. The idea that it's just fine to pirate everything because you can or have the tech to do it is appalling to see in this community.

cosmojg 6y ago
Huh? Why?
- NortySpock 6y ago
  Because I make my money selling my labor and IP to my company (software engineer, it's in my contract.) If someone stole my IP from me or my company, it would be harder to pay the bills for either me, or my company.
  - enitihas 6y ago
    I think the irony is that someone on HN will jump on this thread saying copyright needs to be abolished, and you didn't lose anything as the user wouldn't have paid for it anyways, with the irony being that a large majority of HN either earns money via tracking ads(which is far worse than any copyright), or works money by writing paid software.
    - lostlogin 6y ago
      > a large majority of HN either earns money via tracking ads Have you ever seen any numbers on HN users jobs? I’m continually surprised by the diverse roles of domain experts that appear in threads. I guess I’m hoping you’re wrong.
    - jrockway 6y ago
      I think a lot of HN readers write software that is hosted somewhere, so the users never see the code. Thus, copyright provides us no protection. (I suppose the ex-employee could always take the code and start their own competing service, so copyright does have some value.)
  - swdev281634 6y ago
    When I was younger, out of curiosity I've downloaded leaked source code of Windows or video games. Got an impression that code is not that useful to an outsider. It can help answering extremely specific questions how a particular small isolated function is implemented. Even ignoring legal issues, it won't significantly help building competing products, let alone building a successful business around such product. When we hire people, they gain access to complete source code, documentation, continuous integration environment, bug tracker, and most importantly to the current developers. It usually takes them months to become productive. With just the source code, would probably take a year even for very smart person.
epanchin 6y ago
Thank goodness people did, or we’d still be listening to music on CDs and watching TV on the broadcasters schedule.
zipwitch 6y ago
From an 1841 speech to the British House of Commons on the dangers of increased copyright times: At present the holder of copyright has the public feeling on his side. Those who invade copyright are regarded as knaves who take the bread out of the mouths of deserving men. Everybody is well pleased to see them restrained by the law, and compelled to refund their ill-gotten gains. No tradesman of good repute will have anything to do with such disgraceful transactions. Pass this law: and that feeling is at an end. Men very different from the present race of piratical booksellers will soon infringe this intolerable monopoly. Great masses of capital will be constantly employed in the violation of the law. Every art will be employed to evade legal pursuit; and the whole nation will be in the plot… Remember too that, when once it ceases to be considered as wrong and discreditable to invade literary property, no person can say where the invasion will stop. The public seldom makes nice distinctions. The wholesome copyright which now exists will share in the disgrace and danger of the new copyright which you are about to create. Source:https://www.thepublicdomain.org/2014/07/24/macaulay-on-copyright/ https://www.thepublicdomain.org/2014/07/24/macaulay-on-copyr...
fernandotakai 6y ago
i pay for amazon prime, youtube premium, hbo max, hulu, netflix and spotify. if i'm downloading something i'm 100% sure the media company that owns the rights is getting my money somehow.

fernandotakai 6y ago

i'm a put.io customer and i swear by them. absolutely great service.

steelbrain 6y ago
Ex put.io customer, I downloaded a bunch of media to consume over a flight, except their App would not let me watch already-downloaded videos offline on a plane.

pmarreck 6y ago

bitport is awesome, can vouch

air7 6y ago

how do such services escape the clutches of DMCA? I assume they're used for pirating content.

Nextgrid 6y ago
My understanding is that they bank on the fact that takedown operations are relatively slow and starting up from scratch is easy (or even automated), so they fully expect it to get taken down and make as much money as possible in the meantime then rinse and repeat.
boomboomsubban 6y ago
They usally aren't in the US, and making an international issue out of them just provides free advertising and sympathy for similar services.