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> The longer the submission, the more uninformed the commentary. Well that's hardly news; and it applies to pretty much all text both online and offline. If y

> The longer the submission, the more uninformed the commentary. Well that's hardly news; and it applies to pretty much all text both online and offline. If you really want someone to comment on what you think is the main point of a submission write an executive summary and do an Ask HN instead. Do the summarizing work once instead of expecting ten thousand people to do it.

krapp 6y ago
No, we shouldn't encourage laziness, too many people here grasp for low hanging fruit as it is. This is supposed to be a community of highly intelligent elites looking for thought-provoking, mature discussion on intellectually gratifying topics. If someone needs a concept dumbed down and distilled to the length of a tweet before they can approach it then maybe they shouldn't be here. It's not to much to ask that people read the articles, or at least be willing to attempt it, and to refrain from commenting unless they actually have something insightful to offer. And I'm including people who refuse to turn JS on or refuse to deal with paywalls in the latter group. Don't complain about paywalls or ads or ad blockers... just move on.
- zapzupnz 6y ago
  > If someone needs a concept dumbed down and distilled to the length of a tweet before they can approach it then maybe they shouldn't be here. I would be afraid that taking such a view would be (A) gatekeeping, (B) elitism (despite your assertion, this is not supposed to be a community of elites; high-level discussion doesn't require elitism), (C) and dismissiveness about the use and usefulness of summaries — they're a perfectly reasonable tool for conveying the most interesting point of what sometimes are very long, technical documents; videos; and often presented inaccessibly. Such assertions preclude curiosity which is a crime greater than failing to read an article to someone's arbitrary satisfaction.

krapp 6y ago

No, we shouldn't encourage laziness, too many people here grasp for low hanging fruit as it is. This is supposed to be a community of highly intelligent elites looking for thought-provoking, mature discussion on intellectually gratifying topics. If someone needs a concept dumbed down and distilled to the length of a tweet before they can approach it then maybe they shouldn't be here. It's not to much to ask that people read the articles, or at least be willing to attempt it, and to refrain from commenting unless they actually have something insightful to offer. And I'm including people who refuse to turn JS on or refuse to deal with paywalls in the latter group. Don't complain about paywalls or ads or ad blockers... just move on.

zapzupnz 6y ago
> If someone needs a concept dumbed down and distilled to the length of a tweet before they can approach it then maybe they shouldn't be here. I would be afraid that taking such a view would be (A) gatekeeping, (B) elitism (despite your assertion, this is not supposed to be a community of elites; high-level discussion doesn't require elitism), (C) and dismissiveness about the use and usefulness of summaries — they're a perfectly reasonable tool for conveying the most interesting point of what sometimes are very long, technical documents; videos; and often presented inaccessibly. Such assertions preclude curiosity which is a crime greater than failing to read an article to someone's arbitrary satisfaction.