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Facebook doesn't care. Apple doesn't care (enough to block/punish Facebook). These days the only answer is to treat the web like a hostile environment and prote

Facebook doesn't care. Apple doesn't care (enough to block/punish Facebook). These days the only answer is to treat the web like a hostile environment and protect yourself from malicious companies like Facebook, intent on deploying spyware and ruining the user experience in exchange for more data to profit from. Install a Pi-Hole or similar on your network, block all FB domains. It doesn't break the web for you, it actually makes it a lot faster/nicer. Blocking Google is trickier due to core functionality of major sites depending on some of their services, but you can still block lots of it and still have a totally normal (improved) experience in your daily browsing. (Yes, blocking all FB domains on my network stopped the recent FB bugs from crashing my apps, Spotify/etc worked flawlessly throughout that period, except when I disabled the Pi-Hole temporarily to see what all the fuss was about)

dvt 6y ago
This is so true (and so sad). The web is no longer everyone's playground. If you want to play, you play by Apple's rules, or by Facebook's rules. This is a double-edged sword, because it was, after all, Apple's way that gave way to the phone app renaissance of the 2010s.
- harry8 6y ago
  Nokia n770 was mostly there. n900 was there. If we'd stuck with that as an alternative instead of having microsoft kill it all smartphones would be so much better. A real aternative that didn't suck and treat users as product really would have slowed if not prevented the ios v android race to the bottom of user hostility. Which does one think is worse? Apple or Google? Becuase there's no way either of those are in any sense "good"
- Wingman4l7 6y ago
  People cried out warnings against Apple's walled garden ecosystem. Nobody listened. It's for your own good, they said. It will protect you, they said.
jonny_eh 6y ago
> treat the web like a hostile environment The failure wasn't on the web, it was on iOS.
decasteve 6y ago
Block all of AS32934.
saati 6y ago
Pi-Holeing your home network doesn't help with this issue unless you never go outside, in which case why do you even have a phone?
- Lammy 6y ago
  Here's an equivalent you can take with you. DNS66 for Android (Free, open-source): https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.jak_linux.dns66/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.jak_linux.dns66/ AdGuard Pro for iOS, luckily back from the dead since Apple reversed their guidelines on content-blocking VPNs: https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1126386264 https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1126386264 https://adguard.com/en/blog/adguard-pro-is-back.html https://adguard.com/en/blog/adguard-pro-is-back.html
- l72 6y ago
  Pi-Hole + wireguard works really well. I have my wife's iPhone set up to automatically connect wireguard unless we are on the home wifi. She has no idea it's even happening. She is just happy that the Internet is always less full of junk. The only time she had an issue was on a flight, where she was using the wifi without Internet to watch in flight movies. It was still trying to send everything over VPN and failing, so I added United's wifi to the list to not turn on wireguard, and no problems since. Plus it means she always has access to my internal Nextcloud and Plex instances no matter where she is.

dvt 6y ago

This is so true (and so sad). The web is no longer everyone's playground. If you want to play, you play by Apple's rules, or by Facebook's rules. This is a double-edged sword, because it was, after all, Apple's way that gave way to the phone app renaissance of the 2010s.

harry8 6y ago
Nokia n770 was mostly there. n900 was there. If we'd stuck with that as an alternative instead of having microsoft kill it all smartphones would be so much better. A real aternative that didn't suck and treat users as product really would have slowed if not prevented the ios v android race to the bottom of user hostility. Which does one think is worse? Apple or Google? Becuase there's no way either of those are in any sense "good"
Wingman4l7 6y ago
People cried out warnings against Apple's walled garden ecosystem. Nobody listened. It's for your own good, they said. It will protect you, they said.

jonny_eh 6y ago

> treat the web like a hostile environment The failure wasn't on the web, it was on iOS.

decasteve 6y ago

Block all of AS32934.

saati 6y ago

Pi-Holeing your home network doesn't help with this issue unless you never go outside, in which case why do you even have a phone?

Lammy 6y ago
Here's an equivalent you can take with you. DNS66 for Android (Free, open-source): https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.jak_linux.dns66/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.jak_linux.dns66/ AdGuard Pro for iOS, luckily back from the dead since Apple reversed their guidelines on content-blocking VPNs: https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1126386264 https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1126386264 https://adguard.com/en/blog/adguard-pro-is-back.html https://adguard.com/en/blog/adguard-pro-is-back.html
l72 6y ago
Pi-Hole + wireguard works really well. I have my wife's iPhone set up to automatically connect wireguard unless we are on the home wifi. She has no idea it's even happening. She is just happy that the Internet is always less full of junk. The only time she had an issue was on a flight, where she was using the wifi without Internet to watch in flight movies. It was still trying to send everything over VPN and failing, so I added United's wifi to the list to not turn on wireguard, and no problems since. Plus it means she always has access to my internal Nextcloud and Plex instances no matter where she is.