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Show HN: Notado – Content-First Bookmarking

96 points by bsnnkv 6y ago

bsnnkv 6y ago
I wrote a post here to explain why I felt the need to create Notado and how it fits into my own workflow: https://notado.app/about https://notado.app/about
amadeuspagel 6y ago
Nice idea. Love that it works without passwords.
philips 6y ago
I use readwise.io as something similar. Does this support adding quotations from books? I guess you could reference an ISBN database as a hack for the primary key.
- bsnnkv 6y ago
  It doesn't support adding highlights from books; I primarily listen to audiobooks these days so it wasn't a feature that made the cut when I was defining the scope for Notado. Additionally I think that Readwise already handles this use case very well. I would like to support automatically syncing notes from Notado to Readwise, but it seems that they do not provide a public API yet. It's still possible to indirectly synchronise notes from Notado to Readwise by syncing them to Instapaper as Highlights, and then syncing those Highlights to Readwise, though this isn't something I have done myself so I can't vouch for the reliability of it.
  - hoodwink 6y ago
    One of the creators of Readwise here :) Love what you’re doing and we’re about to ship a public API. Hit us up at hello@readwise.io!
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conqrr 6y ago
Great frontpage and app. I love the integrations and automation section which shows great potential. Few critics and requests: * Please make the signup box more visible/highlighted. Took me 2s to find out where to signup. * Your page is catered towards people who already use a bookmarking serivce. Some of the audience may not yet use a good bookmarking service. For eg: I use a history recorder and don't explicitly bookmark. * Would be great to see an integration with some push to kindle service. I'd signup in a jiffy. (I use fivefilters currently and never actual "read" anything on a monitor).
- bsnnkv 6y ago
  Thank you for your feedback! I have made a note about think about how to engage people who don't already use a good bookmarking service and integrations with Push to Kindle services. I see what you mean about signup visibility; I'll take a stab at improving this a little later in the week.
ceocoder 6y ago
This looks exactly like something I’ve been looking for. Would you ever consider making it available for self hosting ala BitWarden for a license fee? I’d be more than happy to pay a BitWarden like price for if I get to self host this.
- wetwiper 6y ago
  seconding the request for a self hosting option, as well as the payment of a licensing fee (which I'd be happy to pay, as this is also something I've been looking for)
- bsnnkv 6y ago
  I had not thought of this possibility before reading your comment. It is definitely an option that I will consider for the future, but it is not something that should be expected in the short term.
  - ceocoder 6y ago
    Sounds good. I’ll definitely keep my eye on the project. Please let us know if you have a Twitter/Github handle with updates about Notado.
    - bsnnkv 6y ago
      https://twitter.com/notado_app https://twitter.com/notado_app
shacrw 6y ago
Your email input box might need some tweaks. I entered my email and had a space after it ( i actually used a text expander to quickly input it resulting in the extra space), it showed "Invalid Email" Then, I obviously removed the space and got the login link, BUT others might get confused leading to unwanted churn ( in case they also put an extra space)
- bsnnkv 6y ago
  Thank you for taking the time to report this! I will fix this issue later today. Edit: The fix is now live
namuol 6y ago
Heads up: The landing page looks completely broken to me in OS X, Chrome 83.0.4103.116 Looks fine in Safari.
- bsnnkv 6y ago
  Thank you for taking the time to report this! I have a feeling that this is probably because requests to https://cdn.jsdelivr.net https://cdn.jsdelivr.net are being blocked by a Chrome extension you have running. This request is required to load the Bulma CSS framework (which includes no Javascript). There are no third party requests besides this on the website, and in fact the whole website and web app once logged in is 99% HTML, with four JS functions included directly in the HTML responses within a <script> tag to allow for the copying of saved notes and links to the clipboard, rendering UTC timestamps in local time, and toggling the menu on mobile browsers.
  - hombre_fatal 6y ago
    Chrome with uBlock Origin is too common of a configuration to ignore for your landing page. I would serve your CSS from elsewhere.
    - bsnnkv 6y ago
      You're right in that Browser + uBlock Origin is a very common configuration, in fact, it is my own personal configuration. However, as far as I can tell, this domain is not blocked by any of the default lists, and uBlock Origin ships parts of its own assets from this domain.[1] [1] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/search?q=jsdelivr https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/search?q=jsdelivr
kemonocode 6y ago
No self-hosting capabilities unfortunately make this a non-starter for me, but I do really appreciate how slick your front page is and all the integrations you're offering out of the box. I wish you the best of luck!
- bsnnkv 6y ago
  As I mentioned in another comment, this was not something that I had thought about before reading the suggestions today on HN, but it's definitely something that I am actively considering for the future.
- amelius 6y ago
  Same here, though I hope that one day functionality like this becomes a standard part of web browsers.
- ponker 6y ago
  Isn’t it amazing how many products get shipped these days, where products with this level of polish are barely noteworthy entrants into a market of hundreds.
hajimuz 6y ago
The biggest risk for bookmark app nowadays is that you don't know when it's going to disappear.
- bsnnkv 6y ago
  I definitely agree with this. It's for this reason that I've tried to make it as easy as possible for users to automatically sync data from their Notado accounts to other services and make regular or ongoing backups either through the API or by listening to their own RSS feeds.
sangy 6y ago
i literally posted the need for a similar app yesterday on reddit data science channel https://www.reddit.com/r/datascience/comments/ho8y6z/best_toolframework_to_save_online_technical/ https://www.reddit.com/r/datascience/comments/ho8y6z/best_to...
- bsnnkv 6y ago
  I really like this quote from your post: "i want to be able to remind myself why i bookmarked something so that I later don't have to read through entire article to jog my memory." This is one of the major things that motivated me to create Notado!
take_a_breath 6y ago
Trying to sign up. I click the "Log in to Notado" email link and get a "401: Unauthorized The request requires user authentication." error. Am I doing something wrong?
- bsnnkv 6y ago
  The magic link from the login email has expired (they are valid for 5 minutes from the initial request). You'll need to request another sign up/login link from the main page and use it before it expires. Thanks for taking the time to report this issue! I will fix this later today so that in the case of an expired link being clicked the user is redirected to the landing page with a message that explains the link they tried to use has expired.
  - bsnnkv 6y ago
    This has now been addressed and clicking on an expired magic link will now show an error banner explaining to the user that their magic link has expired and that they should request a new one which will needs to be used within 5 minutes.

96 points by bsnnkv 6y ago

I wrote a post here to explain why I felt the need to create Notado and how it fits into my own workflow: https://notado.app/about https://notado.app/about

amadeuspagel 6y ago

Nice idea. Love that it works without passwords.

philips 6y ago

I use readwise.io as something similar. Does this support adding quotations from books? I guess you could reference an ISBN database as a hack for the primary key.

bsnnkv 6y ago
It doesn't support adding highlights from books; I primarily listen to audiobooks these days so it wasn't a feature that made the cut when I was defining the scope for Notado. Additionally I think that Readwise already handles this use case very well. I would like to support automatically syncing notes from Notado to Readwise, but it seems that they do not provide a public API yet. It's still possible to indirectly synchronise notes from Notado to Readwise by syncing them to Instapaper as Highlights, and then syncing those Highlights to Readwise, though this isn't something I have done myself so I can't vouch for the reliability of it.
- hoodwink 6y ago
  One of the creators of Readwise here :) Love what you’re doing and we’re about to ship a public API. Hit us up at hello@readwise.io!

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conqrr 6y ago

Great frontpage and app. I love the integrations and automation section which shows great potential. Few critics and requests: * Please make the signup box more visible/highlighted. Took me 2s to find out where to signup. * Your page is catered towards people who already use a bookmarking serivce. Some of the audience may not yet use a good bookmarking service. For eg: I use a history recorder and don't explicitly bookmark. * Would be great to see an integration with some push to kindle service. I'd signup in a jiffy. (I use fivefilters currently and never actual "read" anything on a monitor).

bsnnkv 6y ago
Thank you for your feedback! I have made a note about think about how to engage people who don't already use a good bookmarking service and integrations with Push to Kindle services. I see what you mean about signup visibility; I'll take a stab at improving this a little later in the week.

ceocoder 6y ago

This looks exactly like something I’ve been looking for. Would you ever consider making it available for self hosting ala BitWarden for a license fee? I’d be more than happy to pay a BitWarden like price for if I get to self host this.

wetwiper 6y ago
seconding the request for a self hosting option, as well as the payment of a licensing fee (which I'd be happy to pay, as this is also something I've been looking for)
bsnnkv 6y ago
I had not thought of this possibility before reading your comment. It is definitely an option that I will consider for the future, but it is not something that should be expected in the short term.
- ceocoder 6y ago
  Sounds good. I’ll definitely keep my eye on the project. Please let us know if you have a Twitter/Github handle with updates about Notado.
  - bsnnkv 6y ago
    https://twitter.com/notado_app https://twitter.com/notado_app

shacrw 6y ago

Your email input box might need some tweaks. I entered my email and had a space after it ( i actually used a text expander to quickly input it resulting in the extra space), it showed "Invalid Email" Then, I obviously removed the space and got the login link, BUT others might get confused leading to unwanted churn ( in case they also put an extra space)

bsnnkv 6y ago
Thank you for taking the time to report this! I will fix this issue later today. Edit: The fix is now live

namuol 6y ago

Heads up: The landing page looks completely broken to me in OS X, Chrome 83.0.4103.116 Looks fine in Safari.

bsnnkv 6y ago
Thank you for taking the time to report this! I have a feeling that this is probably because requests to https://cdn.jsdelivr.net https://cdn.jsdelivr.net are being blocked by a Chrome extension you have running. This request is required to load the Bulma CSS framework (which includes no Javascript). There are no third party requests besides this on the website, and in fact the whole website and web app once logged in is 99% HTML, with four JS functions included directly in the HTML responses within a <script> tag to allow for the copying of saved notes and links to the clipboard, rendering UTC timestamps in local time, and toggling the menu on mobile browsers.
- hombre_fatal 6y ago
  Chrome with uBlock Origin is too common of a configuration to ignore for your landing page. I would serve your CSS from elsewhere.
  - bsnnkv 6y ago
    You're right in that Browser + uBlock Origin is a very common configuration, in fact, it is my own personal configuration. However, as far as I can tell, this domain is not blocked by any of the default lists, and uBlock Origin ships parts of its own assets from this domain.[1] [1] https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/search?q=jsdelivr https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/search?q=jsdelivr

kemonocode 6y ago

No self-hosting capabilities unfortunately make this a non-starter for me, but I do really appreciate how slick your front page is and all the integrations you're offering out of the box. I wish you the best of luck!

bsnnkv 6y ago
As I mentioned in another comment, this was not something that I had thought about before reading the suggestions today on HN, but it's definitely something that I am actively considering for the future.
amelius 6y ago
Same here, though I hope that one day functionality like this becomes a standard part of web browsers.
ponker 6y ago
Isn’t it amazing how many products get shipped these days, where products with this level of polish are barely noteworthy entrants into a market of hundreds.

hajimuz 6y ago

The biggest risk for bookmark app nowadays is that you don't know when it's going to disappear.

bsnnkv 6y ago
I definitely agree with this. It's for this reason that I've tried to make it as easy as possible for users to automatically sync data from their Notado accounts to other services and make regular or ongoing backups either through the API or by listening to their own RSS feeds.

sangy 6y ago

i literally posted the need for a similar app yesterday on reddit data science channel https://www.reddit.com/r/datascience/comments/ho8y6z/best_toolframework_to_save_online_technical/ https://www.reddit.com/r/datascience/comments/ho8y6z/best_to...

bsnnkv 6y ago
I really like this quote from your post: "i want to be able to remind myself why i bookmarked something so that I later don't have to read through entire article to jog my memory." This is one of the major things that motivated me to create Notado!

take_a_breath 6y ago

Trying to sign up. I click the "Log in to Notado" email link and get a "401: Unauthorized The request requires user authentication." error. Am I doing something wrong?

bsnnkv 6y ago
The magic link from the login email has expired (they are valid for 5 minutes from the initial request). You'll need to request another sign up/login link from the main page and use it before it expires. Thanks for taking the time to report this issue! I will fix this later today so that in the case of an expired link being clicked the user is redirected to the landing page with a message that explains the link they tried to use has expired.
- bsnnkv 6y ago
  This has now been addressed and clicking on an expired magic link will now show an error banner explaining to the user that their magic link has expired and that they should request a new one which will needs to be used within 5 minutes.