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> [..] most people really do suck at their jobs. If fact, 50% of people perform below average! 50% of the population also have below average IQ. > Actually no

by bArray 6y ago

> [..] most people really do suck at their jobs. If fact, 50% of people perform below average! 50% of the population also have below average IQ. > Actually no, some of us actually have our shit sorted out > and are actual adults. I believe that everybody has an "inner child", but most functioning adults have built layers around that inner self to enhance their behaviour to that of what we externally perceive as an "adult". Proof that most people still have that inner child can be observed in some edge cases, such as under the influence of drugs, sleep/energy deprived, some mental deterioration conditions such as dementia - and many others. I think sometimes we see this too in viral videos where people behave strangely when presented in an unusual scenario. The mind just seems to go into a "default" mode. I think for the most part, people generally run on auto-pilot. Like the so-called "muscle memory" for athletes, I believe something similar exists for most tasks a person completes day-to-day. Human behaviour more generally is likely doing this. To that extent, is this seeming lack of adult-like behaviour simply a person that needs to relearn this "outer shell"? (Assuming they are also capable of doing so.)

kubanczyk 6y ago
> 50% of people perform below average Nitpick but it's "median" not "average". > everybody has an "inner child", but most functioning adults have built layers And that's the point where I'm scratching my head. What do people even mean by that? As I observe the "inner child" in others and then apply the new theory to myself it's freaking obvious that the adult part is doing all the reading, all the predicting, all the planning, all the outwitting of the child, all the building, all the self-updating, all the $dayjob. Who is writing this text? I am - the adult part. I am who has 99% of control of the communication at this moment. (At a different time the show can be 50% mine. Or 1%. But when writing, the inner child is mostly shunned, I think he cannot even write too well at all.) And so I protest calling me "an outer shell" that you think you can just simply "re-learn". I am no shell. And I'm definitely not outside! I am the first class citizen, I just happen to have a very silent/weird/energetic/stupid/shy roommate. If I try less, he will have more control. If I try harder, he will have less. Balance. But the balance that is maintained solely by me, i.e. by the adult part - the inner child is not able to do that!
- subliun1 6y ago
  > Nitpick but it's "median" not "average". “average noun 1. a number expressing the central or typical value in a set of data, in particular the mode, median, or (most commonly) the mean, which is calculated by dividing the sum of the values in the set by their number.“
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  - kubanczyk 6y ago
    average the result you get by adding two or more amounts together and dividing the total by the number of amounts https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/average https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/average
    - subliun1 6y ago
      email oxford and maybe they’ll fix their definition for you
    - nostrebored 6y ago
      If you're going to nitpick, use the mathematical definition where averages are measures of central tendency. The median is one of those measures.
      - kubanczyk 6y ago
        Calling all the measures of central tendency "averages" is colloquial, not formal. Check your sources if you're going to nitpick my nitpicking. Saying "literally" in place of "figuratively" and then referencing the Oxford dictionary (meaning C, look no further) is a cool way to troll, and to make a fool of oneself.
        nostrebored 6y ago
        I don't understand why you're mad that someone cited the Oxford definition to you. It's not trolling. You're wrong, and you can see this by looking at any number of published news articles where more often than not, average is used to mean median. You can see this from the way that we use average to mean typical. 'Typical' features are more likely to be median or mode than arithmetic mean. 'Average' is itself a colloquialism, so the colloquial use is what's important.
formerly_proven 6y ago
> If fact, 50% of people perform below average! 50% of the population also have below average IQ. That's not necessarily true and for IQ I think it's only true because IQ measures are normalized to an average of 100 and a normal distribution with a set standard deviation. For example if out of ten people nine perform at 100 %, and one performs at 95 %, then the average performance would be 99.5 % and 90 % of people would perform above average. If you swap average for median, then these are true by definition which doesn't really tell us anything about the distributions (so the people by way of measurement) involved.
- nostrebored 6y ago
  "Different concepts of average are used in different contexts. Often "average" refers to the arithmetic mean, the sum of the numbers divided by how many numbers are being averaged. In statistics, mean, median, and mode are all known as measures of central tendency, and in colloquial usage any of these might be called an average value." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average
  - kubanczyk 6y ago
    Don't call me mad again, but realize that the citation you've provided literally says: the parent is "often" right and you "might be" also right. Sigh.
    - nostrebored 6y ago
      That's not how categories work.

by bArray 6y ago

kubanczyk 6y ago

> 50% of people perform below average Nitpick but it's "median" not "average". > everybody has an "inner child", but most functioning adults have built layers And that's the point where I'm scratching my head. What do people even mean by that? As I observe the "inner child" in others and then apply the new theory to myself it's freaking obvious that the adult part is doing all the reading, all the predicting, all the planning, all the outwitting of the child, all the building, all the self-updating, all the $dayjob. Who is writing this text? I am - the adult part. I am who has 99% of control of the communication at this moment. (At a different time the show can be 50% mine. Or 1%. But when writing, the inner child is mostly shunned, I think he cannot even write too well at all.) And so I protest calling me "an outer shell" that you think you can just simply "re-learn". I am no shell. And I'm definitely not outside! I am the first class citizen, I just happen to have a very silent/weird/energetic/stupid/shy roommate. If I try less, he will have more control. If I try harder, he will have less. Balance. But the balance that is maintained solely by me, i.e. by the adult part - the inner child is not able to do that!

subliun1 6y ago
> Nitpick but it's "median" not "average". “average noun 1. a number expressing the central or typical value in a set of data, in particular the mode, median, or (most commonly) the mean, which is calculated by dividing the sum of the values in the set by their number.“
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- kubanczyk 6y ago
  average the result you get by adding two or more amounts together and dividing the total by the number of amounts https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/average https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/average
  - subliun1 6y ago
    email oxford and maybe they’ll fix their definition for you
  - nostrebored 6y ago
    If you're going to nitpick, use the mathematical definition where averages are measures of central tendency. The median is one of those measures.
    - kubanczyk 6y ago
      Calling all the measures of central tendency "averages" is colloquial, not formal. Check your sources if you're going to nitpick my nitpicking. Saying "literally" in place of "figuratively" and then referencing the Oxford dictionary (meaning C, look no further) is a cool way to troll, and to make a fool of oneself.
      - nostrebored 6y ago
        I don't understand why you're mad that someone cited the Oxford definition to you. It's not trolling. You're wrong, and you can see this by looking at any number of published news articles where more often than not, average is used to mean median. You can see this from the way that we use average to mean typical. 'Typical' features are more likely to be median or mode than arithmetic mean. 'Average' is itself a colloquialism, so the colloquial use is what's important.

formerly_proven 6y ago

> If fact, 50% of people perform below average! 50% of the population also have below average IQ. That's not necessarily true and for IQ I think it's only true because IQ measures are normalized to an average of 100 and a normal distribution with a set standard deviation. For example if out of ten people nine perform at 100 %, and one performs at 95 %, then the average performance would be 99.5 % and 90 % of people would perform above average. If you swap average for median, then these are true by definition which doesn't really tell us anything about the distributions (so the people by way of measurement) involved.

nostrebored 6y ago
"Different concepts of average are used in different contexts. Often "average" refers to the arithmetic mean, the sum of the numbers divided by how many numbers are being averaged. In statistics, mean, median, and mode are all known as measures of central tendency, and in colloquial usage any of these might be called an average value." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Average
- kubanczyk 6y ago
  Don't call me mad again, but realize that the citation you've provided literally says: the parent is "often" right and you "might be" also right. Sigh.
  - nostrebored 6y ago
    That's not how categories work.