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This sounds like the current Frankfurt School is still THE Frankfurt School; the heady and often quite complicated critiques in leftist thought (Marcuse, Adorno

This sounds like the current Frankfurt School is still THE Frankfurt School; the heady and often quite complicated critiques in leftist thought (Marcuse, Adorno, etc). I had no idea that was still a thing. There's so much to learn but sadly only one life to live

Der_Einzige 6y ago
For another example of things staying the same far longer than they should within left-wing thought: Most of the "leftist cannon" still believes in psychoanalysis or it's increasingly absurd derivatives (schizoanalysis or analytic psychoanalysis being good examples). Not sure what to do about disproven bullshit being peddled as facts by parts of academia. I shouldn't have to argue with a PH.D in critical terror studies about the existence of the Oedipus complex...
- bitwize 6y ago
  Hackernews had a collective O-face about some guy's talk in which he analyzed programming languages through the lens of Lacanian psychoanalysis. Background: Lacan was the psychoanalyst that made other psychoanalysts go "knock it off, you're making us all look bad". A plagiarizer and narcissist who used his psychoanalytic ramblings to manipulate women into his bed, his psychobabble was even more inscrutable than the usual Freudian stuff. But Hackernews has a strong contingent of advisors to the Emperor. When a story bubbles up about the Emperor's fine outfit, they go nuts.
  - ImprobableTruth 6y ago
    >some guy's talk in which he analyzed programming languages through the lens of Lacanian psychoanalysis I really want to see this. Do you have a link?
    - eat_veggies 6y ago
      https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22910702 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22910702 I watched the entire talk and found it disappointing that the speaker just kind of buckets programming languages into different psychoanalytic vocab words based on their pop culture stereotypes. Hacker News ate it up because that talk demonstrates the exact neurotic compulsion to organize, classify, "understand," and kill, that the tech industry breeds.
      - dnautics 6y ago
        I agree it was a little bit disappointing, and there's a ton of bullshit. But I did find it mildly entertaining and there is this great upshot that "there will always be a diversity of languages because people derive their enjoyment in different ways". By contrast, Uncle Bob not too long ago proposed that everyone converge on clojure as the 'final programming language'.
  - api 6y ago
    Who is the Emperor? If you mean Thiel it's my impression that people regularly talk smack about him around here. He's a really controversial figure to say the least.
    - bitwize 6y ago
      The one from the story about the new clothes. It's a metaphor.
- eat_veggies 6y ago
  Is schizoanalysis an absurd derivative of psychoanalysis or a rejection of it?
  - Der_Einzige 6y ago
    Deleuze might tell you that it's a rejection but it's actually an absurd derivative of it.
    - eat_veggies 6y ago
      Ok you're just asserting these things, and I'd like to hear your reasoning :)
    - daseiner1 6y ago
      How much Deleuze have you read?

Der_Einzige 6y ago

For another example of things staying the same far longer than they should within left-wing thought: Most of the "leftist cannon" still believes in psychoanalysis or it's increasingly absurd derivatives (schizoanalysis or analytic psychoanalysis being good examples). Not sure what to do about disproven bullshit being peddled as facts by parts of academia. I shouldn't have to argue with a PH.D in critical terror studies about the existence of the Oedipus complex...

bitwize 6y ago
Hackernews had a collective O-face about some guy's talk in which he analyzed programming languages through the lens of Lacanian psychoanalysis. Background: Lacan was the psychoanalyst that made other psychoanalysts go "knock it off, you're making us all look bad". A plagiarizer and narcissist who used his psychoanalytic ramblings to manipulate women into his bed, his psychobabble was even more inscrutable than the usual Freudian stuff. But Hackernews has a strong contingent of advisors to the Emperor. When a story bubbles up about the Emperor's fine outfit, they go nuts.
- ImprobableTruth 6y ago
  >some guy's talk in which he analyzed programming languages through the lens of Lacanian psychoanalysis I really want to see this. Do you have a link?
  - eat_veggies 6y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22910702 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22910702 I watched the entire talk and found it disappointing that the speaker just kind of buckets programming languages into different psychoanalytic vocab words based on their pop culture stereotypes. Hacker News ate it up because that talk demonstrates the exact neurotic compulsion to organize, classify, "understand," and kill, that the tech industry breeds.
    - dnautics 6y ago
      I agree it was a little bit disappointing, and there's a ton of bullshit. But I did find it mildly entertaining and there is this great upshot that "there will always be a diversity of languages because people derive their enjoyment in different ways". By contrast, Uncle Bob not too long ago proposed that everyone converge on clojure as the 'final programming language'.
- api 6y ago
  Who is the Emperor? If you mean Thiel it's my impression that people regularly talk smack about him around here. He's a really controversial figure to say the least.
  - bitwize 6y ago
    The one from the story about the new clothes. It's a metaphor.
eat_veggies 6y ago
Is schizoanalysis an absurd derivative of psychoanalysis or a rejection of it?
- Der_Einzige 6y ago
  Deleuze might tell you that it's a rejection but it's actually an absurd derivative of it.
  - eat_veggies 6y ago
    Ok you're just asserting these things, and I'd like to hear your reasoning :)
  - daseiner1 6y ago
    How much Deleuze have you read?