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This is a bizarre claim. People getting labeled as "diversity hires" and being assumed to be less competent than their peers is a decades-old thing. It wasn't
by majormajor 6y ago
This is a bizarre claim. People getting labeled as "diversity hires" and being assumed to be less competent than their peers is a decades-old thing.
It wasn't even a particularly new observation when South Park literally named a character after it almost 25 years ago.
(Probably many of the same people getting labeled that way for holding high-level positions today were similarly judged in their entry-level positions back then! But if people are no longer suspicious of women or minorities in "regular" roles and resume their judgement for upper-level roles, I guess that's a change in the right direction, at least. :| )
- asveikau 6y ago25 years ago it was already old news. I remember in my childhood even further back than that, the grownups would make comments about affirmative action hires. If you think about it this is just one more layer of discrimination people face. If you are in one of those categories, no matter how smart, competent, and worthy you are, many people will assume you didn't get there on merit, and that you took the job from someone better. We ought to reject this.
- Supermancho 6y ago> This is a bizarre claim. https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/05/alexis-ohanian-steps-down-reddit-board/ https://techcrunch.com/2020/06/05/alexis-ohanian-steps-down-... https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/17/us/california-boardroom-gender-quota.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/17/us/california-boardroom-g... This isn't new news. Diversity hiring and promotion is all over, alongside the recent BLM relevance.
- majormajor 6y agoYes, there's been ongoing activism, hand-wringing, counter-activism, legislation, etc, in this space for several decades. So claiming that it's a phenomenon of just the last decade as a way to justify suspicion of merit is very bizarre. Where have you all been?
- derptron 6y agoIf you can't admit that the behavior has increased in recent times then there's no point in discussion
- iateanapple 6y ago> Where have you all been? The pressure on management to hire diverse candidates has increased 100 fold over the past decade.
- dijit 6y ago> This is a bizarre claim. People getting labeled as "diversity hires" and being assumed to be less competent than their peers is a decades-old thing. The truth is that it kind of doesn't matter if it's new or not, it's a very hot subject right now and people are touchy about it. I understand why; Women are facing a lot of abuse on the internet and it feels like many are coming forward with icky things that people have said/done. On the other side it feels like there's been a cataclysmic overreaction- and many people get annoyed when we're asked to "make sure the next one you hire is a $under-represented" or getting overruled by HR when hiring otherwise. (yes, this happened, and it was frustrating because the person we hired was not able to lead the project we needed and was hired anyway- she later left, burned out, nearly wrecked her career and I feel incredibly guilty for not being more vocal about it and keeping it mostly to myself for fear of being called a bigot)
- wwright 6y agoAre you claiming that you couldn’t find any woman who was qualified for your project?
- ghufran_syed 6y agoMore likely that they couldn't find a woman who was qualified for the project and actually wanted to join at the price the company was willing to pay.
- SPBS 6y agoWhy are you jumping to that conclusion? The parent comment probably couldn't even find a person qualified to lead and you had to make it a gender thing.
- wwright 6y agoThe parent comment explicitly made it about gender. They explicitly said they had a man they liked but couldn't hire him because of HR.
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