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Thank you - :) Reading about the cons of Snap now - "auto-updates cannot be turned off" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap_(package_manager) https://en.wikip

by ncr100 6y ago

Thank you - :) Reading about the cons of Snap now - "auto-updates cannot be turned off" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap_(package_manager) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap_(package_manager)

nawgszy 6y ago
Just what we all want on our production hosts.
- entropicdrifter 6y ago
  Especially when they're being installed covertly through APT
_jal 6y ago
Yep. One of many reasons they're banned in our shop. Even for client software it is bad - an app quitting out from under me because it wants to update is functionally equivalent to a crashing bug - but they're offering daemons this way, which is just insane. Who doesn't want all their containers randomly restarting because someone up the distro chain decided when your machine needed to upgrade? https://snapcraft.io/lxd https://snapcraft.io/lxd
- tomponline 6y ago
  The containers do not restart when the snap package is updated.
- tssva 6y ago
  If snap decides to update lxd on the nodes of your lxd cluster at the same time that a node has failed it is a CF. The cluster will not come up because your down node is now not the same version as the other cluster nodes.
- Lorkki 6y ago
  > an app quitting out from under me because it wants to update This doesn't happen, at least on account of Snap. It's copy-on-write when it comes to updates, and whatever version you have running at the time of update will happily keep on running. I've been mildly confused by this a couple times, when I would end up with two different versions of VS Code running side by side, but the bright side was that my work wasn't interrupted. It incidentally also sidesteps all the problems that stem from libraries or configuration being updated under a running application, which can happen with Apt.
xet7 6y ago
Auto-updates of all Snap packages can be turned off at /etc/hosts by adding a line: 127.0.0.1 api.snapcraft.io
- bscphil 6y ago
  This is sort of like saying you can turn off auto-updates by leaving your Internet connection disabled - true, but missing the point that what people are primarily complaining about is having to adopt an adversarial relationship to the software they use.

by ncr100 6y ago

Thank you - :) Reading about the cons of Snap now - "auto-updates cannot be turned off" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap_(package_manager) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snap_(package_manager)

nawgszy 6y ago

Just what we all want on our production hosts.

entropicdrifter 6y ago
Especially when they're being installed covertly through APT

_jal 6y ago

Yep. One of many reasons they're banned in our shop. Even for client software it is bad - an app quitting out from under me because it wants to update is functionally equivalent to a crashing bug - but they're offering daemons this way, which is just insane. Who doesn't want all their containers randomly restarting because someone up the distro chain decided when your machine needed to upgrade? https://snapcraft.io/lxd https://snapcraft.io/lxd

tomponline 6y ago
The containers do not restart when the snap package is updated.
tssva 6y ago
If snap decides to update lxd on the nodes of your lxd cluster at the same time that a node has failed it is a CF. The cluster will not come up because your down node is now not the same version as the other cluster nodes.
Lorkki 6y ago
> an app quitting out from under me because it wants to update This doesn't happen, at least on account of Snap. It's copy-on-write when it comes to updates, and whatever version you have running at the time of update will happily keep on running. I've been mildly confused by this a couple times, when I would end up with two different versions of VS Code running side by side, but the bright side was that my work wasn't interrupted. It incidentally also sidesteps all the problems that stem from libraries or configuration being updated under a running application, which can happen with Apt.

xet7 6y ago

Auto-updates of all Snap packages can be turned off at /etc/hosts by adding a line: 127.0.0.1 api.snapcraft.io

bscphil 6y ago
This is sort of like saying you can turn off auto-updates by leaving your Internet connection disabled - true, but missing the point that what people are primarily complaining about is having to adopt an adversarial relationship to the software they use.